Is synchronicity explained in occult literature?

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one-off wrote:So in regards to your "relationship of two instances" I might be twisting your meaning a bit to fit my understanding, but I can see this being possible that the relationship I'm experiencing isn't the same relationship Joe Schmo down the road will have. Or even someone else on this forum. Only an experiment will tell the truth.

Are you open to experimentation Cyberdemon?
That's exactly what I mean.
If one same instance is applied to two other instances, what is the result? If the one same instance is applied twice to another instance, what is the result? These are where the deviations start. But if synchronicity is real, the effects are all pre-calculated or calculable, following a formula and won't go outside it.

Of course I am. The majority of what I know for sure regarding the occult comes from experimentation.
Also, I'm not sure if it is just something undiscovered like math used to be which is a law governing the universe instead of an energy specifically fitted to individuals. That's why I asked what was known here in this world about it. Before this discussion to me it was just something called Synchronicity, but the first reply here has me believing it to be something that is being moved with intent since there is somewhat of a consensus in that direction, and I'm a neophyte.
Intent is a different matter. It depends on whether "fate" and "synchronicity" are interchangeable, which ideally shouldn't be. If they are, then nothing one does matters because the results are predetermined and we are merely observers. That's one sign of synchronicity. But as proven by practitioners, intent does have an impact on the result. Cause and causality. To find synchronicity in this manner is difficult but not impossible. What caused the cause? Since this cause isn't Fundamental (ie. what caused the cause of the start of the universe?), it can have its own cause. How did the instance of this cause come into being? How did this cause affect another instance and to what purpose? And so on. Either way, synchronicity must have had a beginning.
When we talk about synchronicity we have different views on it. I'm not of the mind that everything is driven by a puppet master and we have no free will. Since I'm a Christian and free will is written in the bible. Even though the bible is full of half truths. If free will was one of those half truths then it refers to the state of being habit driven, how people's minds work before the first level mind training in IIH. Even that state has free will in it as 1/10 people are able to choose differently then the neural pathways that are formed in their mind in any given situation.

I hope I'm not confusing you. Just in case I'll explain the above statement.

The neural pathways of a person's brain, the neural network is a series of connections in the brain that dictate automatic responses. It's essentially people's personalities.

Here's a short minute and a half video of them forming, I am not affiliate with anything in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NA_o1jOjsQ

Ok, so what you just saw are the habits of the mind. There is a network associated with every action a person takes, whether they get angry at certain situations, or what ever. You come into the world with a basic template of basic human instincts, and what was formed from the dna you got from your parents. It also reflects the elemental temperament of your soul (my addition, not stated anywhere scientifically).

As you grow up and make choices new ones emerge others die out and your personality forms within this vast but limited network. Take a quick look around your life. Everything you see has a correlated pathway. This is the brain. A physical construct, similar to a computer program.

Now, for most people by the time they reach the age of 25 this network has formed into what they will have for the rest of their lives. The mind does not like to form new pathways because it is an unknown thing to the mind and could result in the destruction of the body. Plus, when a new pathway forms in direct opposition to an old one, the old one has the potential to b destroyed. So it actively works to keep you in this comfort zone. Each one of these neurons are alive and have a self interest towards survival. Their survival is supposedly equivalent to the survival of the whole since you haven't died from them being there. They are like say your white blood cells which job is to fight off viruses. But, the neurons have the ability to take control of your body and get you to act along what ever habit they are associated with.

The best example I can give for you to understand this would e the observation of thought exercise in level 1 of IIH. As you observe your thoughts from the shadows your mind gets taken over and you all of a sudden find yourself thinking along some thought tangent against your will. Even though you went into the practice with the full intent to only be the observer.

When you form new pathways old ones can be destroyed so they fight for their survival, by literally controlling you. The saying, old habits die hard comes to mind.

That's the half truth of free will. But, the brain is just something physical, and the mind transcends it so we are able to make choices that go against this programming. It's difficult though which is why 9 out of 10 people would keep a life threatening habit vs changing it due to the willpower needed to fight against them.

I actually know of techniques to develop these mental programs. I have a few I came up with as well as some powerful ones that are known systems out here. They essentially operate off of word, like everything else, and you can implant a word into your brain, or series of words to form one of these which will pull you in the directions you want to go in. Instructions.

I've taken the responsibility of constructing it myself. The programmer of my own mind. Or architect, or engineer, w.e. this is called.

If the world was entirely set in stone then I was always meant to transcend my mental programming while others are always meant to be products of their environments. Doesn't make sense. I don't believe in 100% synchronicity. I see it more of a asymmetrical system where there are some overarching rules and we are free to move within those boundaries.

How we end up is of our own design.

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I don't have time for an in-depth reply now. This is pretty much to OP only.

You must not know much about Kaballah to be questioning your fate and free will.

The truth of the matter is, we have very, very, veeerryyy little free will. But that tiny pinprick of light that we do have is immensely powerful.
No matter what choices you make, you are stuck to your fate. Knowing the future will always cause you to rush towards fate.



100% of your life, you're constantly carrying out two conversations. One with your physical body speaking to or interpreting whatever is in physicality, and the other is of your spiritual body, communicating with God through all things. God is always above you (literally, crown energy is God).


I would reccomend reading some of the articles on http://montalk.net/
The author talks a lot about synchronosity, as well as some other topics that might interest you.
Take everything he writes with a certain grain of salt, though, because the dude is absolutely batshit crazy and obsessed.
I wouldn't read material by anyone else. Use your own experience to piece together what fits.


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Well, I work and study in the field of medicine, so.

When we speak free will, we do it at a very basic level. When we speak of things being predetermined, ie. fate, that's a complex hypothesis. The easiest way I can explain it is with an example of a flow chart.

Object A meets object B -> B finds A's turtle appealing -> Does B tell A?
Yes/No
B decides to tell A. A is pleased.
B decides not to tell A. A is oblivious but has a lesser impression of B.

A is pleased ->->-> A and B take over the world together.
A is oblivious but has a lesser impression of B ->->-> A and B take over different regions of the world, their turtle vs tortoise armies poised for battle.

As you can see, "fate" hasn't changed. Both A and B reach where they were supposed to (ie. a position of power), but the circumstances are different based off their "free will". That's because fate/destiny is unchanging, by definition. That's why it's said that nobody knows what their fate is. Whether you want it or not, that's where you will end up, no matter how or why you ended up there. The idea that one can change their fate is merely an illusion. This is also why broad-spectrum predictive systems such as tarot cards and horoscopes work up to a certain point.

The neurological aspect also gives rise to the possibility of people becoming "brainwashed", coded to accept a specific as normal. This coding can be done by both the human and by the above levels, of course.

Either way, yes. You're in control of how you reach the end.
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Magic is the engineering of coincidence. Synchronicity is spontaneous magic.

My research leads me to theorise that the thing that we call magic is (in programming terms) an 'edge case' of normal human consciousness. Normally we affect the world by making decisions and acting them out.

Magical actions are the same, only there is no causal link between the 'acting out' (the magical act) and the thing itself occurring. It exploits the deep process that allows us to experience reality in a coherent fashion.

When you get piles of synchronicities, it is because the magical act you have performed (not necessarily on purpose) is to open yourself up to connection. This is what the Erisians do. They pray to Eris to open them up to connections from everywhere. Which is naturally what they then get. You normally have to perform another magical act to stem the flow. If it is a centre of your belief system that everything is connected to everything, then it is! As Bill Hicks said "Because that's how powerful our minds are"
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Hahahaha... after speaking so strongly against it's existence, Asmodeus showed me an example of synchronicity - I met a woman out of the blue whose name was Lilith. Lilith happens to by my other god, and I believe the two of them are married - yes, I know that it says either Satan or Samael is married to Lilith in lots of places, but I believe it to be Asmodeus from things I've read elsewhere. Theres nothing stopping multiple gods being married to one another in different forms - Lilith has 17 separate recognised forms herself, for example. But yeah, the fact that the person I met had the same name as my goddess, there is nothing connecting the two events together causally, therefore it is synchronicity [yay]

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Clockwork_Ghost wrote:Hahahaha... after speaking so strongly against it's existence, Asmodeus showed me an example of synchronicity - I met a woman out of the blue whose name was Lilith. Lilith happens to by my other god, and I believe the two of them are married - yes, I know that it says either Satan or Samael is married to Lilith in lots of places, but I believe it to be Asmodeus from things I've read elsewhere. Theres nothing stopping multiple gods being married to one another in different forms - Lilith has 17 separate recognised forms herself, for example. But yeah, the fact that the person I met had the same name as my goddess, there is nothing connecting the two events together causally, therefore it is synchronicity [yay]
Great you're starting to see. Interpretation is meant for the receiver. Paying attention now you should start to see it happen more often. It could mean just god in general.

It happens everyday when you're minds made aware of it.

Spontaneous magic huh... Interesting

There is a time delay in it though. The first event must occur for the second to become interlinked to it.

I like to say it can be sped up by entering the alpha brainwave state because alpha are stronger brainwaves on the etheric plane.

Essentially though, we ask for what's being received on us. This is a case of thought magick. After reading a few of the books about the astral plane recommended to me in the other posts I understand what takes place here mechanically somewhat.

When we think a thought there is an amazing series of events that take place which causes us to end up in a related situation.

I'll make a post on the theory of it all later since I have yet to obtain my own astral vision to confirm.

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one-off wrote: It could mean just god in general.

It happens everyday when you're minds made aware of it.
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