About Goosebumps

[LoneWolf]

Hey,

Since starting to observe and think about energy with a more keen eye due to wanting to practice it my thought has changed. Something that has all my life been there and almost ignored now has my attention. Goosebumps.

I think it is necessary to separate between the cold induced changes in the skin and the changes on the skin created due to high emotion, ecstasy or high energy traffic in the spine. These are the goosebumps I am talking about.

I see it as high energy that due to extern stimuli gets in a way created and travels(or MUST travel). Whenever it happens to me I feel as if this energy doesn't flow properly and gets stuck somewhere in the way. This causes my body to move in subtle but weird ways(typical spasm). Energy must find its way out. Its cause, I am thinking, may be blockages or too high energy for an underdeveloped tunnel. Superfast car drivers, for example, get these high energy pulses less than the first time you do something, maybe rationally they control them and whatever that controls these energetic creations is adapted to thought, or just that their "tunnel" or path has adapted to conduct such energy properly. It occurs to me another possibility, maybe this high energy overflows its current chakra and therefore energy must go forcefully up. (note: Not talking about adrenaline rush)

Next idea that comes to mind is pretty straightforward. How can I force them, and obviously can I use such high energy pulses for magick? I will now start experimenting with such phenomena and thought I would share.

Let's see what you think about this. Experiences as always welcomed.

TL,DR: What do you think about goosebumps? What do you think about using them for magick? Have you done so?

My regards

[Desecrated]

One of the dangers with the occult is that you start to think that everything is part of the occult.
There is a perfectly normal explanation for goosebumps.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/music/ques ... bumps.html

[LoneWolf]

I am talking about the strong electric feeling in the spine that subsequently produces skin changes( such skin changes not of my interest yet).

I can in a physical and scientific way and by no means occult, describe why it would hurt if I would chop my arm off. That doesn't mean that its energetic and emotional reaction in my body, and how I may use it for occult purposes, are irrelevant or out of question.

I feel interested in this phenomena because I percieve it as very intense and therefore from my logic should be effective in magick.

Also, I thought your key value was "magick is in the mundane too"

My regards

[CCoburn]

I'm not sure about the goosebumps, But I get the strong tingling sensation that
is related to them. I do understand the normal situations in which this occurs,
and how it is augmented during Rituals. There is a difference. I haven't, in my case
really studied the phenomenon, but am quite aware of it.

As far as the cause, and always keep in mind there may be multiple causes for any effect.
I would use the Occult terms, Within, and Without. As one way to explain this. The Within
is psychological, or in the case of a Invocation, you are bringing energy into your body, which
would be the catalyst. In the case of an Evocation, the ambient electromagnetic changes can
initiate a tactile response. And, as I saw someone mention here in another post, at times there
can be a fine line between Evoking, and Invoking. Regardless of the intent of the Practitioner.

Peace

[Desecrated]

Also, I thought your key value was "magick is in the mundane too"

I don't have any key values or fix point of anything. I change my beliefs depending on the situation.

But even if I like the mix of the mundane and magick,that doesn't mean that I subscribe to the idea that everything mundane is magic. Goosebumps are a psychosomatic reaction to an emotion. It's like having butterflies in your stomach. You know, "the wonderful weirdness of having a body".

[Desecrated]

I am talking about the strong electric feeling in the spine

I don't think that is normal goosebumps. You seem to be feeling it stronger than the average person.

[LoneWolf]

Also, I thought your key value was "magick is in the mundane too"

I don't have any key values or fix point of anything. I change my beliefs depending on the situation.

But even if I like the mix of the mundane and magick,that doesn't mean that I subscribe to the idea that everything mundane is magic. Goosebumps are a psychosomatic reaction to an emotion. It's like having butterflies in your stomach. You know, "the wonderful weirdness of having a body".

I don't believe occult to be a group of phenomena or a subset of nature. I believe it is a framework or model that can be used to describe events and natural forces. I can describe and understand a flower physically, biologically, psyschologically, using poetry, using a song, a drawing, X-ray scan, picture, and of course occult teachings. The fact that more or less people may directly or indirectly define and agree that X model is better to describe Y, doesn't change the reality of the object of description nor accomplishes its goal of understanding better or worse. Not comparable in my opinion.

As it is useful to change your beliefs depending on the situation, as you pointed out and, if I may add, your intentions; it is also useful in my opinion and experience to use diferent models(scientific, occult, etc.) to describe and understand diferent phenomena and nature events to acomplish different kind of goals one may have.

My regards

[cactusjack543]

the weakness of man to survive with abilities goodness gracious oh how the wedding ....

[tripkos]

I know the feeling. Using these pulses for magic, for me, i can't do it, as i already have enough energy. I can't control it completely, and i don't have to, as far as i know. But it makes sense that if you could fully control it, energies get more powerful, as they are supplemented. I don't try it, but instead i ground them in the archetype of the fool or joker. I use these bursts to induce behaviour which is comical, and utterly bizarre. A friend who lives with me always laughs his ass off and in this sense it could be called some type of magic. I don't use it with everybody though. Maybe if i just would ignore it or suppress it, my skin would suffer from it, maybe not.