3 am

[Tourettes]

For a year or so I was continually waking up at 3am and staying wide awake with tons of energy until about 5am. This all stopped once I started to date my partner (see my first post on this forum for details).

After i posted here and asked for your help I noticed that I've been waking up at 3am again with lots of energy just as before. I've read in certain places that 3am is a time we wake up when we are having some sort of spiritual progress.

My question is, assuming waking up at 3am is a good thing, do you think my partner or his ex was doing something to sabotage me or like energetically suck me dry for his own astral purposes? I've mentioned on here before that I believe he visits the astral realm quite often most likely to have sex with his ex. He rarely sleeps either nowadays. His ex is a known insomniac too. They are very much into tantra and dream yoga so I'm wondering if somehow they have been using my energy to facilitate something.

And what should I be doing at 3am anyway? Meditating?

[the_spiral]

Your posts here so far are kind of disturbing. You seem to be in considerable pain/distress and (correctly or not) attributing it all to these two people. You can't call someone a "partner" who you distrust on such a deep level. You need to separate yourself from them and from the religious group you're all involved in and seek help with this crisis. I'd recommend a two-pronged approach, seeking out the advice of both a mental health professional and a reputable, caring spiritual counselor who understands the paradigm you're working from and is not connected in any way to these people. This may not be what you want to hear, but as an occult practitioner I'd feel irresponsible advising you on spellwork or magical combat techniques here. You can't practice psychic self-defense without having an inner structure to defend in the first place and it sounds like yours is badly compromised. So removing yourself from the negative situation and focusing on healing should be your first priority before anything else.

[Nahemah]

3- 5 am, the hour of the Tiger...

http://www.chinahighlights.com/travelgu ... /hours.htm

In several cultural traditions around the world there are hours or periods of time of particular significance or power.

In mine, the time you were born at will be when you are most powerful magickally speaking, there are other traditions, customs and stories about 3 am and the 'darkest hour' which coincides with 3 -5am hereabouts in midwinter/January. Liminality is another relevant concept, regarding hours and power.

There is more, but this is all I can think of, casually, atm.

[fraterai]

Your posts here so far are kind of disturbing. You seem to be in considerable pain/distress and (correctly or not) attributing it all to these two people. You can't call someone a "partner" who you distrust on such a deep level. You need to separate yourself from them and from the religious group you're all involved in and seek help with this crisis. I'd recommend a two-pronged approach, seeking out the advice of both a mental health professional and a reputable, caring spiritual counselor who understands the paradigm you're working from and is not connected in any way to these people. This may not be what you want to hear, but as an occult practitioner I'd feel irresponsible advising you on spellwork or magical combat techniques here. You can't practice psychic self-defense without having an inner structure to defend in the first place and it sounds like yours is badly compromised. So removing yourself from the negative situation and focusing on healing should be your first priority before anything else.

I know I said I wasn't going to say it again, but just to emphasize what spiral is saying here, (I REALLY hate energy going to waste) this is a quote that was in an article from a local healer at a shop where a get all my candles and charcoal, and since you wanted "older" opinions in one of your previous posts (I can only imagine she's been a healer all her life, handed down through family):

Espíritu Santo described how she works as a kind of pharmacist at her busy botanica where she prescribes and formulates cures for her customers. “If I had a client who was being abused by her partner, the first thing I would tell her would be to leave him. You couldn’t just buy a bottle of “Vete,” which is probably best translated as “go away,” said la dueña, or owner.

You NEED to do your part and LISTEN to the 10 or 15 people who have told you over and over to GET away from your so-called partner, or else you are not only being self-destructive but wasting all of these wizards', mages', and healers' time and energy. The positive effects you are feeling are not going to last unless you do so.

[chowderpope]

OP, I have to agree with everyone here. You may be afraid to leave and feel like you don't have many options for places to go, but if the person you live with is truly harming you then you need to remove yourself from living with them.

Have they told you anything that would give you the idea they harm you? Have they physically harmed you? So far it seems it's possible this is all in your head.

If they are indeed harming you physically or have said something to give you the strong indication they want to hurt you, then get out. If not, I recommend speaking with them about your concerns because it's possible you are just giving yourself these ideas.

[LoneWolf]

In several cultural traditions around the world there are hours or periods of time of particular significance or power.

In mine, the time you were born at will be when you are most powerful magickally speaking

May you further explain that or provide some source, Nahemah?

I experience big energy states daily by the time I was born.

My regards

[Nahemah]

Sure, I'll look around, I'm sure I have something written down somewhere.

A lot of my knowledge on this is kenning related, so it's not all from book sources, but I'll see what I can dig up for you. If I've not posted here within a couple of days, kick me on it. I'm busy irl just now, so a little forgetful. [thumbup]

[Nahemah]

This is a good introductory article on liminality, it is very general but talks of several cultures and traditions.

http://www.indigogroup.co.uk/edge/liminal.htm

And this has a bit of Celt in it:

http://westerngeomancy.org/word-of-the-week-liminality/

Astrologically liminal times also occur when the moon is void of course, for instance, or at the Solstices. Times when the Moon or the Sun appear to 'stand still' in the sky.

Or this too, for another example:

https://blog.necronomi.com/2011/06/05/a ... midheaven/

People came to believe that any planet or fixed star which was Rising or Culminating profoundly and permanently influenced anything which was initiated at that time, including human births. Though any number of things may be going on in the sky at any time, the events taking place in the Ascendant and Median Coeli are usually the most influential, and the most magical.

This is why all talismans require the source of its power be at either of these zones at the time of their creation. It does not matter whether it is a ring, an orb, a pendant, or any other thing. It does not matter whether the power comes from a planet, a star, or a more obscure astrological phenomenon. The Ascendant or Median Coeli are where the magic happens.

The time around your birth is a liminal phenomenon.

Being born at a void of course moon, is said to be significant too:

http://www.astrococktail.com/personalVOC.html


More later.

[LoneWolf]

Thank you Nahemah, good read.

My regards