Correct Haniel Sigil

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Original post: Eternal

Hello, can anyone verify what the correct seal/sigil of Haniel (Venus) is for contact? And I mean by actually posting it if possible. Is the one in Konstatinos' "summoning spirits" correct?

Thanks

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Original post: AETERNITAS0

Correct? what a wierd concept!

Can you make a Kamea (number square) of Venus?
Can you spell Haniel in Hebrew?
Can you use the Qabalah of Nine Chambers?

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Original post: AETERNITAS0

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Original post: AETERNITAS0

HANIEL
5+1+50+10+1+30

make the Kamea, get some tracing paper over it.
Find the Five, put a little circle there, draw a line going from 5 to 1, there is no 50 so reduce to 5, so curve the line back from one, next to the circle over five, then to 10, then back near one again, then to 30, and your done.

Take the sigil you made, and compare it to ones you see in books.

get the idea?

The way the sigil will turn out will depend on where the numbers fall on the Kamea (some magicians have a different technique for this) and how you spell the name.

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Original post: Asterion

hope this helps

the seal from kons comes from a book on high magic by Denning and Phillips




This seal of Anael, or aniel, same thang, comes from the Heptameron



this is derived from the qamea



and this is from the Rose Cross Wheel




asterion

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Original post: AETERNITAS0

I'm fairly certain that Haniel and Anael are not one and the same.
Haniel is the Archangel of Netzach, Anael being the Angel of the sphere of Venus.

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Original post: Eternal

Thanks everyone. That Haniel sigil above is the same one in Konstatinos' book. Has anyone here used that sigil or has anyone had experiences with Haniel?

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Original post: Eternal

also, what color is the one from denning and phillips supposed to be drawn in?

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Original post: Asterion

i seee you are fairly new to this and have very few pracctical info, pleaso don t think i m meam for saying this but, DO NOT EVOKE.

Kons lists Haniel together with Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Tsadkiel, etc etc etc, just as the Heptameron lists Anael with Raphael, Gabriel, Sacchiel , soon.

Haniel is just a consonantic spelling of Aniel , the first He in hebrew is silent in this case i believe. Just because he used the correct grammatical hebrew names of the archangelic powers doesn t mean he used different angels.
Sacchiel from the heptameron, of the Jupiter sphere, is a medieval rendition of Tsadkiel. Seem pretty different but Sacchiel-Tsacchiel-Tsakiel-Tsadkiel is an obvius phonetic evolution.

To my knowledge, when it comes to angelic hierarchies and their place on the vibrational map of the universe, the Area that we call Sphere of Venus is Identical to Sephira Netzach. Vibrational area of ascent that is, not planet (Nogah)

:drama:asterion need coffee

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Original post: Eternal

Actually I don't plan on evoking, I just plan on using it for prayer. I did it with Raphael once with amazing results.

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Original post: splendorsolis

Just remember not to pray to the sefirot!

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Original post: AETERNITAS0

[QUOTE=Asterion;343761]

To my knowledge, when it comes to angelic hierarchies and their place on the vibrational map of the universe, the Area that we call Sphere of Venus is Identical to Sephira Netzach. Vibrational area of ascent that is, not planet (Nogah)

:drama:asterion need coffee[/QUOTE]

I wasn't speaking of Aniel but Anael, who is the Angel of Nogah, Lietenant under the Archangel Haniel, or Aniel. Sorry about the confusion.

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Original post: Eternal

[QUOTE=splendorsolis;343845]Just remember not to pray to the sefirot![/QUOTE]

What I'm going to do is do the prayer to Haniel using Venus attrbutes (along with the sigil) such as emerald, rose quartz, and rose incence. This is all only to aid in a connection, not to evoke. In the end if Venus and the sefirot are one in the same does not matter to me, though they probably are.

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Original post: splendorsolis

Well, it's more advice not to pray to any particular something so much as to "nothing."
Of course, just keep in mind that whatever you're praying to is just an aspect of the infinite being, and it should be cool. :-p

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You have already answered your own question.

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Original post: Asterion

hope this helps

the seal from kons comes from a book on high magic by Denning and Phillips




This seal of Anael, or aniel, same thang, comes from the Heptameron



this is derived from the qamea



and this is from the Rose Cross Wheel




asterion

I LOVE YOU HANIEL... I AM BETROTHED TO YOU MY WIFE FOR ETENNITY... OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU SO MUCH HANIEL... OH MY GOD YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL HANIEL, HANIEL, ANIEL

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I am still in love with you
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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I love you with all of my heart