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Hypnotic sleep state

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Hi. I'm practising astral projection. I'm newish to this. Last night a cold hand grabbed my wrist when I was in a hypnotic sleep state. And last week I remember something cold wrapped around me. Is this anything to worry about? I can't find any information on this.

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Most warm-blooded bodies prefer to stay warm

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Nobody should take my word for gospel, ever, but in my personal opinion, there's always things to worry about, a whole load of things to worry about out there.
But then again, on the other hand in hindsight, if I had spent all my time worrying about all those things, I would have gotten nowhere.
And then on a third hand, things we worry about, don't disappear just because we stop looking at them. When we "go out" for the first time, we tend to see and find things that always been there, we were merely blind and ignorant of our surroundings, until the day we open our eyes.
Ignorance is a bliss and we miss it dearly, but we can't stay children forever.
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This is a difficult topic, as the amount of situations one can encounter doing astral journeys is extreme. A couple solid rules of thumb.

-Study PSD....eventually you'll run into nefarious "stuff"

-Have a strong, healthy and solid aura. I see a lot of people whom get into the occult and they have giant "wounds" in there energy field. This is a problem for life in general and especially occult praxis, as you can start attracting all kinds of gunk. Healing is a long term process....but you at-least want to initially eliminate any severe imbalances.

-Allies....if your jumping dimensions, its important to contact the Beings whom already walk with you. Most people have at-least a few around them. Going through processes to develop strong "alliances" like Knowledge and Conversation and Familiars are a thing. If you come from a particular spiritual background or religion....forces there may be "easier access".

-Out-of-body experiences can be powerful and intoxicating....meditation or some other kind of exercise that allows you to center yourself once you return to the body are important. Setting boundaries and delineating times of "activity" are of value...but super important if your "senses" are naturally open. Discipline opens all doors.....a lack of it can be debilitating.

A couple of my favorite books on said topic.
-Tranceportation by Diana L. Paxson
-The Way of the Mystic Wizard by Mathew Baker
-Singing the Soul Back Home by Caitlin Mathews

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WildWolf wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:45 pm
A couple of my favorite books on said topic.
-Tranceportation by Diana L. Paxson
-The Way of the Mystic Wizard by Mathew Baker
-Singing the Soul Back Home by Caitlin Mathews
One more honorary mention. Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce.

I've not read his books (may get a copy soon), but he has an OG status in this field as he was one of the first too write a comprehensive book on the topic and has written various other books on Energy Work and PSD.

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WildWolf wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:45 pm .....
-Allies....if your jumping dimensions, its important to contact the Beings whom already walk with you. Most people have at-least a few around them. Going through processes to develop strong "alliances" like Knowledge and Conversation and Familiars are a thing. If you come from a particular spiritual background or religion....forces there may be "easier access".
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That is a really great advise.
I don't know where would I be without all the help from all my "moms" and dads" up above (or down bellow, depending how one sees things) and without my familiars, a whole team of them. I'd be "half of a man" without them. But my first pair were "gifted" to me virtually the next day after I "got out", so it can be hard to say, which should come first, chicken or an egg.
But probably best to start working on nurturing connections and friendships, with people and forces out there, in advance, before gaining ability to visit any of them. Whichever pantheon one feels more aligned with. I imagine that would make things significantly easier and safer.
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Temperature drops are a hallmark of ghostly manifestations.

Neither here nor there

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Cerber wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:17 pm
WildWolf wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:45 pm .....
-Allies....if your jumping dimensions, its important to contact the Beings whom already walk with you. Most people have at-least a few around them. Going through processes to develop strong "alliances" like Knowledge and Conversation and Familiars are a thing. If you come from a particular spiritual background or religion....forces there may be "easier access".
....
That is a really great advise.
I don't know where would I be without all the help from all my "moms" and dads" up above (or down bellow, depending how one sees things) and without my familiars, a whole team of them. I'd be "half of a man" without them. But my first pair were "gifted" to me virtually the next day after I "got out", so it can be hard to say, which should come first, chicken or an egg.
But probably best to start working on nurturing connections and friendships, with people and forces out there, in advance, before gaining ability to visit any of them. Whichever pantheon one feels more aligned with. I imagine that would make things significantly easier and safer.
Yeah, i don't know where i'd be without guides. Probably deeply lost...like having a tiny flashlight in a dark cosmos.

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