Error : Moderator Malfunction/Moderator Inattentiveness

[CCoburn]

Error : Moderator Malfunction/Moderator Inattentiveness

THIS is when it all started:

by Ziran » Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:45 pm:

These sound like the words of seeker who failed and then is projecting their failure on all others.

I don't know exactly how all language is interpreted in "The Kingdom of Britania", but if you cannot follow the threads and object when and where appropriate, then why don't you just mind your own business.

And if you believe that it is your business and your so-called 'job', then do it right or don't do it at all.

Having said that, I obviously could care less about being removed from any site that is going to cater to some mouthy jackass noob that is actively seeking out and attempting to seize control of and dominate threads that I myself have created.

The aforementioned could also be considered a form of stalking among other things, where it is normally the "stalker" who is prosecuted and not the other way around.

[Cerber]

I don't think I should, and generally I don't, police and scrutinize every word in every sentence, in a every post of every thread. Especially, when it comes to threads, to which some specific person can claim certain level of ownership. Because if you claim some level of ownership of some part of this place, you claim partial responsibility for maintaining certain level of order and maturity in that corner. "Order" which still needs to be aligned with general guidelines of the entire place, above personal levels of tolerance and preferences. To achieve that, when all communication fails, we have "report" button for everyone, including you, to use.

I'm aware, who threw the first pebble, yet, instead of you reporting anything, you seem to took his snarky comments as personal challenge of sorts. In which case then, if neither party has problem with the exchange of snarky comments, proactive moderation, based entirely on my own arbitrary personal feelings, would unlikely to be welcomed.

Until discussion, if it even can be called as such now, cross some hard lines (by descending in to outright name calling, or other ways), then intervention of some sort becomes necessity. In ideal world, it would be enough to just politely ask for everyone to be nicer, but it didn't quite cut the marks, this time, so it is what it is now.

Regardless, your feedback and objections are noted and will be passed higher up for review. In the mean time, your thread will remain locked for another day or so. Apologies for any inconvenience caused, especially if you feel my actions were unfair. We will review and reflect on the entire event, including my actions, to hopefully help us improve speed and quality of responses from moderation team, for any future incidents of similar nature.

Best regards.

[CCoburn]

Well in the real world any person that is the creator of just about anything does have some degree of "ownership" pertaining to said "thing" by default, aside from any legal avenues to thoroughly secure such an ownership.

If you were aware "who threw the first pebble" then you should have acted accordingly at that point or at least made a retroactive assessment instead of jumping in weeks later and just asking everyone to "be nice" followed by a reprimand at some arbitrary point directed at the "thread creator" who up until that point was minding their own business until this newly emerging 'toxic personality' felt it was their duty and their right to aggressively hijack users' threads and force their own version of this "authentic Kabbalah" down everyones' throat.

I'm not the "squeaky wheel" so I don't get the grease, is that how it works? It wouldn't surprise me if this Ziran is the type of person that throws insults while simultaneously hitting the "report button" and going private with the moderation.

If some user chooses to "go toxic" with me and the so-called moderation doesn't have a problem with it then I don't have a problem with it; neither enduring any process of debate between us that will eventually result in them having their ass handed to them.

This Ziran person came to me, I didn't come to them. Everything was just peachy and quite civil until they showed up, albeit not quite as active.

It should be obvious that they did not come here to 'create' and share information but primarily to target myself and when they did not receive compliance from me WITHIN MY THREADS they did a complete three hundred and sixty degree turn into a complete demoralizing asshole:

These sound like the words of seeker who failed and then is projecting their failure on all others.

These are the types of words that are intended to demoralize and attack the spirit of a user, and if nothing else, are fabricated to be as INFLAMMATORY as a mind can conjure in the absence of profanity. I know the intention, but I also know better, which is why they did not achieve their desired effect.

This is the very reason I ask for "simplification", because it "reveals" what a knucklehead you are, and I'm not using "knucklehead" here as an ad hominem but for rhetorical purposes.

That's almost like punching somebody in the face and following up with "Don't be mad, I didn't mean to hurt you, I'm just joking bro."

That's a terrible analogy. My dad used to call me a "knucklehead" in jest, but he NEVER "punched me in the face". Those two scenarios are not even REMOTELY similar.

I know I'm not staff here, but my advice:

Tell this Ziran user that if he wishes to propagate his "authentic Kabbalah" that it is not okay to hijack the threads of 'long-time' users here with the intent of intimidation, destructive behavior, and demoralization, because they do not align with his ideologies, but that he should create his own threads for such a purpose of propagating his agenda and not aggressively attempting to reform current users and their well established threads as well as ideologies.

However, in the event of status quo I will either just ignore this user, or in the very least refrain from any future name-calling. (Yeah yeah, just go and take all the fun out of it, whatever)

I don't really care about The Tree of Life thread and whether it remains locked or otherwise. There are always other things to do, here or elsewhere.

[Cerber]

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If you were aware "who threw the first pebble" then you should have acted accordingly at that point or at least made a retroactive assessment instead of jumping in weeks later and just asking everyone to "be nice" followed by a reprimand at some arbitrary point directed at the "thread creator" who up until that point was minding their own business until this newly emerging 'toxic personality' felt it was their duty and their right to aggressively hijack users' threads and force their own version of this "authentic Kabbalah" down everyones' throat.
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I've said "I am aware who threw the first pebble" (am now, and was when warning was given), while pointing out, that I don't police every word of every person on every thread at all time, in real time. Unless people give me some good reason to.

If anyone needs me to be aware of anything sooner, there is "report" button provided. If you chose not to use it, for whatever reason, and instead engage in a bar brawl, then, when I become aware of it, I will try prioritize quick resolution with the least amount of force.
If both parties seem to be enjoying themselves, while trashing communal place, "who started first" becomes non-deciding factor then, unfortunately.

Anyway, for the foreseeable future, I will be monitoring posts more closely, especially from members who showed lack of restrain once before, which will hopefully help us to avoid similar unpleasant situations.

Thank you for your understanding and your support.

[CCoburn]

I do understand that it is quite an abundance of material in that thread and I myself didn't even actually read everything, so one could be forgiven for not being privy to relevant key phrases and text coupled with the fact that by nature I am not one to make use of any "report" feature which I'm sure did not lend any favor to my situation.

Actually the "He started it!! No, he started it!!" did come to mind, but I believe it to be more about the initiating of a context in which a user resorts to demoralizing behavior because things aren't going their way, but like I said, the abundance of text makes it increasingly more difficult to discern such things.

I did come from various writing forums and am well aware of the 'crafty' individuals and their "crafty" ways of attempting to inflame users via relegation of language and 'stealthiness' to avoid detection by moderation.

In any event, I don't have any argument pertaining to the outcome of this matter.