Original post: puppetmaster
If youve read a few of my comments on other threads im looking to expound on 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l. and i am thinking that the invocation of baphomet and the the abra-melin ritual would be very helpful. this is a very delicate operation all together and if anyone has any other ideas on what would be helpful, note im not afraid of performing painstakingly dangerous rituals to acheive this goal.
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Original post: Skeptismo118
Boring...
Been done before...
Usually leads to meaningless gibberish and megalomania of the banal kind...
Go learn to read Chinese. It will be more useful in the long run.
Boring...
Been done before...
Usually leads to meaningless gibberish and megalomania of the banal kind...
Go learn to read Chinese. It will be more useful in the long run.
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Original post: puppetmaster
those whom choose this should assume the responsibility of a prophet not as it would be cool. my work into this is but a part of a complete finished masterpiece of the great work. ive already discovered the secrets handed down to me by higher powers that transcends any type of understanding that has yet to be found in any type of study. the ancient one who pronounced it to me is only to be referred to as Klêidouchos, his description is the light of the priests of the gods and the order of light by which they are compelled and to this matriarchal organisation of the leaders of this and every other aeon that has ever been upon the forefront of humanities understanding of gods is the ultimate law of the priests. the name of the formula was pronounced to me as the keys of infinity. i have yet to finish my work but it will enlighten the masses and all men will stand in awe of its perfection.
those whom choose this should assume the responsibility of a prophet not as it would be cool. my work into this is but a part of a complete finished masterpiece of the great work. ive already discovered the secrets handed down to me by higher powers that transcends any type of understanding that has yet to be found in any type of study. the ancient one who pronounced it to me is only to be referred to as Klêidouchos, his description is the light of the priests of the gods and the order of light by which they are compelled and to this matriarchal organisation of the leaders of this and every other aeon that has ever been upon the forefront of humanities understanding of gods is the ultimate law of the priests. the name of the formula was pronounced to me as the keys of infinity. i have yet to finish my work but it will enlighten the masses and all men will stand in awe of its perfection.
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Original post: LordOfLies
Good luck with that.i have yet to finish my work but it will enlighten the masses and all men will stand in awe of its perfection.
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Original post: Deimos
asaaagdfygkjtiffffkwerpibv)*BE
I'm a prophet too! And I'm going to enlighten everyone before you do
asaaagdfygkjtiffffkwerpibv)*BE
I'm a prophet too! And I'm going to enlighten everyone before you do
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Original post: extinctionspasm
In the last,
Enlightenment is a choice;
Men and women may only enlighten themselves.
In the last,
Enlightenment is a choice;
Men and women may only enlighten themselves.
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Original post: Sheosyrath
I'm a better prophet than you are! (But Alysyrose takes the cake.)
I'm a better prophet than you are! (But Alysyrose takes the cake.)
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
Would you care to elaborate on the mysticalities of your pronouncements Puppet or? For the unelightened can you explain what that algorithim aludes to or is it something generally known in the Ceremonial community?
Would you care to elaborate on the mysticalities of your pronouncements Puppet or? For the unelightened can you explain what that algorithim aludes to or is it something generally known in the Ceremonial community?
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Original post: Sheosyrath
It's from the Book of the Law AO - it's some hidden something or another that some new prophet is supposed to uncover a secret from or some jazz. Never heard of anything substantial coming from it.
It's from the Book of the Law AO - it's some hidden something or another that some new prophet is supposed to uncover a secret from or some jazz. Never heard of anything substantial coming from it.
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Original post: zeroflye
Kind words, Sheosyrath.
Heres my take on the Great Puzzle.
I've seen alot of master magicians try and crack it using Crowley's system of word numerology, symbolism, math, and techniques. We must remember that this puzzle cannot be cracked in the language or methods of The Beast, or he himself would have been able to crack it, and he wasn't meant to (assuming it was from a supernatural intelligence.)
Countless websites tend to cater to this oddity, though with all things meant for the higher age, I believe it may be expounded with some un-common sense.
This dosn't nessecarily mean that it would take a greater intellect than Crowley's to crack it, but it would certainly require a different way of seeing things.
4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l.
Converting letters to numbers gives a 148 using simple addition.
This is a permutation of 418.
"Aye! Listen to the numbers & the words!"
With the answer to this, also being a word of some sort...
"...tell them this glad word."
Before Hadit manifests the string of code, He mentions words already within it.
Let's look at the letters.
abk algmor yx rpstoval
Any words inherent in this would be Oval, at the end, or circle, perhaps representive of Nuit. Algmor is an anagram of Glamor. There is also a period at the end, representative of Hadit, according to Crowley... Nuit, Hadit, the point within the circle. I believe Oval was put as the ending to bring more attention to the Nuit/Hadit duality.
I'm so much concerned with the prose within it, as I am interested in it as a (code) given to a (prophet) from an (egyptian god).
Since a string of numbers gives 148, as if the first clue was found, let's do the reverse, numbers to letters.
4 6 3 8 2 4 3 2 4 8 9
D F C H B D C B D H I
As a puzzle, there has to be some manner of equation within it.
DFCH ABK BD ALGMOR = 15
C YX BDHI RPSTOVAL = 15
30 characters in total, which can be equally divided.
There are four gaps in each line, the gap occurs when the language is switched from numbers to letters. This is very important. There are also 4 clusters of value within each line.
4638 abk 24 algmor 3 yx 2489 rpstoval.
Keep in mind the origin of this "intelligence".
Hieroglyphics can be read from left to right, right to left, or up and down.
Since a simple reversal won't be of much good,
let's try up and down as if on columns.
This now gives 4 sections of information.
Note: In the case of zero, (A) will be traditionally used
DC = 4 3 = 8
FY = 6 25 = 31
CX = 3 24 = 27
HB = 8 2 = 10
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21, 54, 76 = 151 (AEA)
AD = 1 4 = 5
BH = 2 8 = 10
KI = 11 9 = 21
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14, 21, 36 = 71 (GA)
BR = 2 18 = 20
DP = 4 16 = 20
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6, 34, 40 = 80 (HA)
AS = 1 19 = 20
LT = 12 20 = 32
GO = 7 15 = 22
MV = 13 22 = 35
OA = 15 1 = 16
RL = 18 12 = 30
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66, 89, 155 = 310 (CAA)
AEA-GA-HA-CAA
(aee-gah-hah-kah)
The "C" was devoid of "S" sound in Egypt/that area.
bearing some odd resemblance to Abrahadabra, and fitting quite well.
It is also incredibly rare to gain a pronouncable word from this method,
without the end result being a jumbled string of consonants.
ABRAHADABRA is 11, as are "all of their numbers who are of us"
AEAGAHACAA is 10 (number of perfection, although I would expect 11)
... but wait
"Crowley concluded that the "0" represented Nuit, or the circumference of the universe. The period "." was representative of Hadit."
Are we to include the period found at the end of
"4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l."?
If so, the complimentary "hidden" magic word would thus be 11 characters as well. And this does come from, after all, the chapter attributed to Hadit.
More on this correspondance...
From up to down
ABRAHADABRA
AEAGAHACAA.
AA
BE
RA
AG
HA
AH
DA
AC
BA
RA
A
aa-be-ra-ag-ha-ah-da-ac-ba-ra-a
11 syllables total.
All variations pay homage to those used in magic squares, mantras and power words.
Well, I'm out. Do with this what thou wilt, this is only what I personally have gotten out of it while trying to figure it out myself. A very Crowley-like word of power, is it the THE "Glad Word", though? Who knows. Perform some rituals with it, or ask your "higher powers", and see what happens. I'd also recommend the endless websites which try and get to some kind of bottom. As I said before, though, they're using Crowley's methods, and I do not think it will come from that way, lest he himself would have expounded it.
In this case, I think it's more of how you think, than what you know. This puzzle is far from over, but I don't I'll be giving up on it either. (that is, if there is truly something to be gotten out of it)
Good luck on your mission.
Kind words, Sheosyrath.
Heres my take on the Great Puzzle.
I've seen alot of master magicians try and crack it using Crowley's system of word numerology, symbolism, math, and techniques. We must remember that this puzzle cannot be cracked in the language or methods of The Beast, or he himself would have been able to crack it, and he wasn't meant to (assuming it was from a supernatural intelligence.)
Countless websites tend to cater to this oddity, though with all things meant for the higher age, I believe it may be expounded with some un-common sense.
This dosn't nessecarily mean that it would take a greater intellect than Crowley's to crack it, but it would certainly require a different way of seeing things.
4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l.
Converting letters to numbers gives a 148 using simple addition.
This is a permutation of 418.
"Aye! Listen to the numbers & the words!"
With the answer to this, also being a word of some sort...
"...tell them this glad word."
Before Hadit manifests the string of code, He mentions words already within it.
Let's look at the letters.
abk algmor yx rpstoval
Any words inherent in this would be Oval, at the end, or circle, perhaps representive of Nuit. Algmor is an anagram of Glamor. There is also a period at the end, representative of Hadit, according to Crowley... Nuit, Hadit, the point within the circle. I believe Oval was put as the ending to bring more attention to the Nuit/Hadit duality.
I'm so much concerned with the prose within it, as I am interested in it as a (code) given to a (prophet) from an (egyptian god).
Since a string of numbers gives 148, as if the first clue was found, let's do the reverse, numbers to letters.
4 6 3 8 2 4 3 2 4 8 9
D F C H B D C B D H I
As a puzzle, there has to be some manner of equation within it.
DFCH ABK BD ALGMOR = 15
C YX BDHI RPSTOVAL = 15
30 characters in total, which can be equally divided.
There are four gaps in each line, the gap occurs when the language is switched from numbers to letters. This is very important. There are also 4 clusters of value within each line.
4638 abk 24 algmor 3 yx 2489 rpstoval.
Keep in mind the origin of this "intelligence".
Hieroglyphics can be read from left to right, right to left, or up and down.
Since a simple reversal won't be of much good,
let's try up and down as if on columns.
This now gives 4 sections of information.
Note: In the case of zero, (A) will be traditionally used
DC = 4 3 = 8
FY = 6 25 = 31
CX = 3 24 = 27
HB = 8 2 = 10
----------------
21, 54, 76 = 151 (AEA)
AD = 1 4 = 5
BH = 2 8 = 10
KI = 11 9 = 21
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14, 21, 36 = 71 (GA)
BR = 2 18 = 20
DP = 4 16 = 20
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6, 34, 40 = 80 (HA)
AS = 1 19 = 20
LT = 12 20 = 32
GO = 7 15 = 22
MV = 13 22 = 35
OA = 15 1 = 16
RL = 18 12 = 30
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66, 89, 155 = 310 (CAA)
AEA-GA-HA-CAA
(aee-gah-hah-kah)
The "C" was devoid of "S" sound in Egypt/that area.
bearing some odd resemblance to Abrahadabra, and fitting quite well.
ABRA-HAD-ABRA
AEA-GA-HA-CAA
AEA-GA-HA-CAA
It is also incredibly rare to gain a pronouncable word from this method,
without the end result being a jumbled string of consonants.
ABRAHADABRA is 11, as are "all of their numbers who are of us"
AEAGAHACAA is 10 (number of perfection, although I would expect 11)
... but wait
"Crowley concluded that the "0" represented Nuit, or the circumference of the universe. The period "." was representative of Hadit."
Are we to include the period found at the end of
"4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l."?
If so, the complimentary "hidden" magic word would thus be 11 characters as well. And this does come from, after all, the chapter attributed to Hadit.
More on this correspondance...
From up to down
ABRAHADABRA
AEAGAHACAA.
AA
BE
RA
AG
HA
AH
DA
AC
BA
RA
A
aa-be-ra-ag-ha-ah-da-ac-ba-ra-a
11 syllables total.
All variations pay homage to those used in magic squares, mantras and power words.
Well, I'm out. Do with this what thou wilt, this is only what I personally have gotten out of it while trying to figure it out myself. A very Crowley-like word of power, is it the THE "Glad Word", though? Who knows. Perform some rituals with it, or ask your "higher powers", and see what happens. I'd also recommend the endless websites which try and get to some kind of bottom. As I said before, though, they're using Crowley's methods, and I do not think it will come from that way, lest he himself would have expounded it.
In this case, I think it's more of how you think, than what you know. This puzzle is far from over, but I don't I'll be giving up on it either. (that is, if there is truly something to be gotten out of it)
Good luck on your mission.
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Original post: Sheosyrath
Indeed it is as I said. Frater Alysyrose takes the cake! (That's zeroflye for those in the dark.) That was pretty cool man, and drawing a correspondence to ABRAHADABRA makes me think about it again, because that word is a current interest of mine.
Indeed it is as I said. Frater Alysyrose takes the cake! (That's zeroflye for those in the dark.) That was pretty cool man, and drawing a correspondence to ABRAHADABRA makes me think about it again, because that word is a current interest of mine.
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Original post: mikewho
when "it?" was accomplished or almost accomplished it was the mark of the beast. They? Him? (im not sure who) as it alludes to "You Are Almighty For...", he is challenging Him, or they. For they are almighty For? For what? Forever? It is a questionable sentence, with no question, but alluding to an answer that hasnt taken place yet.
Father son and (6)holy spirit..........you are (6)almighty for............................?gone or(6) go?
Before the mark of the beast, he was only half of that. he was right below One. God is One, and God is 777. Yet the sum of God adds to 3. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The number of the beast is 666, and is one more below God, but wanted to reach God, but only God is One. Wanted to reach One ness. Who was Gone? he was Gone. He was 666. 18 is 9. He wanted to be 3, but wasnt. He is 666. He was 999, than he inverted. Pentagram, Baphomat. He became 666. Still wasnt 3. Why? Because 666, still brings him back to 9. He is still less than God. God is One.
9 is the greatest, 6 is the inverse. The inverse could not bring him beyond One.
Hear oh Israel, the Lord Our God is One. He was 2 sevens, which predicted his fate. 999 was also a prophecy. 999 = 2 +7. He was short of the 3. He was with two 7's. But was still only a nine. He rebelled and was 18, three 6's. But no greater than a 9. he can never be One.
This is my understanding of it. Although the parts that are question marked, are where I am confused, and not understanding.
when "it?" was accomplished or almost accomplished it was the mark of the beast. They? Him? (im not sure who) as it alludes to "You Are Almighty For...", he is challenging Him, or they. For they are almighty For? For what? Forever? It is a questionable sentence, with no question, but alluding to an answer that hasnt taken place yet.
Father son and (6)holy spirit..........you are (6)almighty for............................?gone or(6) go?
Before the mark of the beast, he was only half of that. he was right below One. God is One, and God is 777. Yet the sum of God adds to 3. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The number of the beast is 666, and is one more below God, but wanted to reach God, but only God is One. Wanted to reach One ness. Who was Gone? he was Gone. He was 666. 18 is 9. He wanted to be 3, but wasnt. He is 666. He was 999, than he inverted. Pentagram, Baphomat. He became 666. Still wasnt 3. Why? Because 666, still brings him back to 9. He is still less than God. God is One.
9 is the greatest, 6 is the inverse. The inverse could not bring him beyond One.
Hear oh Israel, the Lord Our God is One. He was 2 sevens, which predicted his fate. 999 was also a prophecy. 999 = 2 +7. He was short of the 3. He was with two 7's. But was still only a nine. He rebelled and was 18, three 6's. But no greater than a 9. he can never be One.
This is my understanding of it. Although the parts that are question marked, are where I am confused, and not understanding.
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Original post: Sheosyrath
man that aint 11 letters... lol
man that aint 11 letters... lol
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Original post: zeroflye
Mikewho, I would like to see where exactly your speaking from instead of your thoughts on The Beast and his numerical nature. I would hate to see this thread going into countless reports of personal symbolic beliefs without examination of the actual code itself. Then again, i've said what I had to. You may do what you want.
Mikewho, I would like to see where exactly your speaking from instead of your thoughts on The Beast and his numerical nature. I would hate to see this thread going into countless reports of personal symbolic beliefs without examination of the actual code itself. Then again, i've said what I had to. You may do what you want.
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Original post: Sheosyrath
His post is totally different from when I read it.. twas like some sort of riddle.
His post is totally different from when I read it.. twas like some sort of riddle.
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[QUOTE=zeroflye;267906]Mikewho, I would like to see where exactly your speaking from instead of your thoughts on The Beast and his numerical nature. I would hate to see this thread going into countless reports of personal symbolic beliefs without examination of the actual code itself. Then again, i've said what I had to. You may do what you want.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? All i did was play with the numbers the words and the hebrew/aramaic. I tried to make it all fit, in its order. Im not sure how to do it though.
[QUOTE=zeroflye;267906]Mikewho, I would like to see where exactly your speaking from instead of your thoughts on The Beast and his numerical nature. I would hate to see this thread going into countless reports of personal symbolic beliefs without examination of the actual code itself. Then again, i've said what I had to. You may do what you want.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? All i did was play with the numbers the words and the hebrew/aramaic. I tried to make it all fit, in its order. Im not sure how to do it though.
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Original post: zeroflye
as in, where did you get that first post of riddle from before you changed it? Perhaps I'm just having a hard time following your train of thought.
as in, where did you get that first post of riddle from before you changed it? Perhaps I'm just having a hard time following your train of thought.
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Original post: mikewho
[QUOTE=Sheosyrath;267907]His post is totally different from when I read it.. twas like some sort of riddle.[/QUOTE]
thats because i was reading " 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l." like a riddle. I was trying to figure out the number correspondences to the meaning of the, and the transfused words, with the inverted words. It seems confusing because i tried to make what looked like a numerical story (to me anyway), with hebrew/aramaic inbetween stand out, and explain the story i saw.
apologies Zeroflye, i was typing that the same time you were (thats why it said "another post was created during you making this one... or something to those lines") Didnt mean to litter anything.
[QUOTE=Sheosyrath;267907]His post is totally different from when I read it.. twas like some sort of riddle.[/QUOTE]
thats because i was reading " 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l." like a riddle. I was trying to figure out the number correspondences to the meaning of the, and the transfused words, with the inverted words. It seems confusing because i tried to make what looked like a numerical story (to me anyway), with hebrew/aramaic inbetween stand out, and explain the story i saw.
apologies Zeroflye, i was typing that the same time you were (thats why it said "another post was created during you making this one... or something to those lines") Didnt mean to litter anything.
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Original post: mikewho
the words mean something to the extent of : father, Son are almighty for burning, and are gone. Or something to this degree. However he says it in a way, with words that are considered will directive (im sure everyone knows this, as they are all power words.) PRESTO.
the words mean something to the extent of : father, Son are almighty for burning, and are gone. Or something to this degree. However he says it in a way, with words that are considered will directive (im sure everyone knows this, as they are all power words.) PRESTO.
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Original post: mikewho
basically, what I understoood by reading " 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l." Is the riddle that was translated from " 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l." I dont know.
basically, what I understoood by reading " 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l." Is the riddle that was translated from " 4 6 3 8 a b k 2 4 a l g m o r 3 y x 24 89 r p s t o v a l." I dont know.
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Original post: mikewho
he leaves out the holy spirit maybe, because the holy spirit is needed to direct God, and the Son, away. In otherwords, God needs to use his power, in order to go.....??
he leaves out the holy spirit maybe, because the holy spirit is needed to direct God, and the Son, away. In otherwords, God needs to use his power, in order to go.....??
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Original post: mikewho
ABK, only alludes to the Father and Son, maybe even only father. I do not know Aramaic.
ABK, only alludes to the Father and Son, maybe even only father. I do not know Aramaic.
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Original post: zeroflye
Oh alright. Well your methods are as good as anyones.
The trouble I see with this is that who will know, if or when it is cracked? Will the true answer just be thrown out the window as another one of the countless attempts?
The code even reads like the coordinates of something, with the numbers and the YX towards the end.
Have people become accustomed to thinking the answer will be so great and profound, that they will not see it when it is actually found? Keeping in mind it is a very small part of an already profound and life-changing book.
It may also be the final prank of old uncle Al. He may have created another lore in the fashion of the philosopher's stone, the holy grail, the fountain of youth. Entrancing many into a life-long search for a batch of thin air. Then again, this may be a good thing -- encouraging occultists to research every aspect of the world, ultimately reaching enlightenment to find that they were a God all along.
Who knows. So spake the prophet.
-And mike, I'm not trying to discourage you, but try keeping all of your thoughts in the same post
Oh alright. Well your methods are as good as anyones.
The trouble I see with this is that who will know, if or when it is cracked? Will the true answer just be thrown out the window as another one of the countless attempts?
The code even reads like the coordinates of something, with the numbers and the YX towards the end.
Have people become accustomed to thinking the answer will be so great and profound, that they will not see it when it is actually found? Keeping in mind it is a very small part of an already profound and life-changing book.
It may also be the final prank of old uncle Al. He may have created another lore in the fashion of the philosopher's stone, the holy grail, the fountain of youth. Entrancing many into a life-long search for a batch of thin air. Then again, this may be a good thing -- encouraging occultists to research every aspect of the world, ultimately reaching enlightenment to find that they were a God all along.
Who knows. So spake the prophet.
-And mike, I'm not trying to discourage you, but try keeping all of your thoughts in the same post
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Original post: LucianAccendus
Ave
It had been decyphered by NAEQ a little over 30 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Aeon_English_Qabala
Once the NAEQ was discovered and applied to this formula, it revealed the numerical value of the English Alphabet, thereby making the line read:
"[English Alphabet] What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to follow thee: he shall expound it."
Which is what indeed happened.
Konx Om Pax
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It had been decyphered by NAEQ a little over 30 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Aeon_English_Qabala
Once the NAEQ was discovered and applied to this formula, it revealed the numerical value of the English Alphabet, thereby making the line read:
"[English Alphabet] What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to follow thee: he shall expound it."
Which is what indeed happened.
Konx Om Pax
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Original post: mikewho
cant believe i wasted so much time on a riddle. I knew Crowley was not as deep as i was. ;-)
cant believe i wasted so much time on a riddle. I knew Crowley was not as deep as i was. ;-)