Sigil Mosaic..?

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Original post: Sentinus

Thanks to Nalyd23 for suggesting I post this again..

I had a thread going at one time (pre-hack) that was pretty short lived, but I think it could be looked into at a bit deeper level. Deals with the hiararchy of all levels of Spirit at and before the time of creation.

In that; At one time, all the spirits would have had to have worked hand in hand with regard to the creation of the heavens and the earth, etc. Supposing that before the 'fall' there were no Goetic or 'dark' spirits per se.. granted there were different levels or stations if you will; kings, princes, dukes, etc. All the same though - having to work together in unity.

That said, consider this; Since at least the time of Solomon, humans have been attempting to document the multitudes of spirits and their sigils. If each Spirit has or had it's own sigil as not only a living symbol but as a designation also.

If all spirits great and small had to work together as one entity, IMO it seems logical to assume that at one time all their sigils were also linked as one entity. What if it were possible to recombine all the sigils in one massive 'sigil puzzle' or mosaic of sorts.

That said, consider this too; What is the one shape that re-occurs in nature more often then any other? What shape are planets, stars, atoms, molecules, eggs, sperm, etc. The answer for the most part is 'round' or 'round-ish', lol. Reference also, the opening line in the 3rd Enocian Key - In Dee's English "Behold, sayeth your god, I am a Circle on whose hands stand 12 Kingdoms.." Yeah, it's a little far out, but bear with me on this....

It occurred to me, that most sigils follow a pattern of sorts. They already seem to 'want' to fit together like a hand in a glove, like a circut board of sorts. If the most re-occuring form in all of creation is that of a sphere, why not lay out the known sigils that we have over such a sphere in a 3-D environment. Finding what matches where etc.

If a Spirit's sigil is a living symbol of Itself, would the end result take on a life of it's own...? Would we then be the Hand of God re-creating the Hand of God..?

Think about it, fill in the gaps .... let me know what ya think.

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Original post: palindroem

Theres a suggestion that at least one of the battles thats taking place is . . . squaring the circle. As angles are removed from the circle (or sphere, whatever) its forced to take on a more square shape.
Geometrically, as one moves up the symbolic ladder towards perfection (so they say) we can see a progression from the four elemental square, five component pentagram, six rayed star . . . up in angles approaching a more circle'd shape.
To reach the culmination of all point possible in the sphere . . . WOW!! that would be alot of effort . . . definitly would be a gods level of Great Work. . . . unity of all.
I think its an excellent idea . . . I'd like to help!

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Original post: Sentinus

[QUOTE=palindroem]Theres a suggestion that at least one of the battles thats taking place is . . . squaring the circle. As angles are removed from the circle (or sphere, whatever) its forced to take on a more square shape.
Geometrically, as one moves up the symbolic ladder towards perfection (so they say) we can see a progression from the four elemental square, five component pentagram, six rayed star . . . up in angles approaching a more circle'd shape.
To reach the culmination of all point possible in the sphere . . . WOW!! that would be alot of effort . . . definitly would be a gods level of Great Work. . . . unity of all.
I think its an excellent idea . . . I'd like to help![/QUOTE]
Aye, but where to start..?

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Original post: Nalyd23

Where to start and what sigils/seals to actually use would be my concern here. What sets of sigils do you have in mind Sentinus?

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Original post: Frater Omicron

Friends,

There is an echo of this idea in a Grimoire called Azoetia by Andrew Chumbley. In fact it is refered to as the 'One Sigil Unformulated'. The section is too long to quote and the publisher Xoanon frowns on internet posting of its copyrighted material, but if you have the book or know someone with one look on page 121 where you will see the Formulae of Sigillic Wisdom. You can see the book in question here: http://www.xoanon.net

The book postulates the idea of the Great Sigil - which is made up of all sigils - a sort of egregore if you will. Any sigil then, has a link thereunto and so a part of the mystery is expressed in each and several sigil. This being the case it would suggest that each sigil is part of a larger alphabet - a magical alphabet. The implications of this concept could devour countless hours of the magician's time and it would no doubt be as effective as the Kabbalists meditation on the Hebrew letters, and their infinite combinations, found in the Zohar.

Frater Omicron

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Original post: Sentinus

[QUOTE=Nalyd23]Where to start and what sigils/seals to actually use would be my concern here. What sets of sigils do you have in mind Sentinus?[/QUOTE]All of them.. everything & every one that is known to mankind, thusly leading to more no doubt.


[QUOTE=Frater Omicron]Friends,

There is an echo of this idea in a Grimoire called Azoetia by Andrew Chumbley. In fact it is refered to as the 'One Sigil Unformulated'. The section is too long to quote and the publisher Xoanon frowns on internet posting of its copyrighted material, but if you have the book or know someone with one look on page 121 where you will see the Formulae of Sigillic Wisdom. You can see the book in question here: http://www.xoanon.net

The book postulates the idea of the Great Sigil - which is made up of all sigils - a sort of egregore if you will. Any sigil then, has a link thereunto and so a part of the mystery is expressed in each and several sigil. This being the case it would suggest that each sigil is part of a larger alphabet - a magical alphabet. The implications of this concept could devour countless hours of the magician's time and it would no doubt be as effective as the Kabbalists meditation on the Hebrew letters, and their infinite combinations, found in the Zohar.

Frater Omicron[/QUOTE]All I can say is; WOW.. that's pretty much blown my mind. Lifting my chain of thought to a whole new level. Thank you.

Considering that as per Xoanon.net these are now out of print, it may be considerably difficult to locate a copy - although well worth the effort, from what little I've seen hinted at thusfar.

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Original post: Deo Volente

Grace & Peace!

Reminds me of two things:

1--the Valentinian Gnostic paradigm articulated by Marcus. He had a vision of the Logos who appeared to him as a naked woman covered with the letters of the Greek alphabet. She would communicate to him by pointing to the letters on her body. Valentinian cosmology also states (if I remember correctly) that the Aeons of the pleroma form the completed name of God. During a state of some confusion resulting from the Aeons not knowing the Unknowable God from which they came (and wanting to know) the Son (who contains the Aeons) appears to them and reintegrates them into himself by giving them gnosis of the Unknowable God--the reintegrated Son becomes another Aeon--The Savior. In some systems, I recall that each Aeon is considered a letter in the name of God, but that each letter is also composed of Aeons and letters that comprise it. For instance--the letter B can be spelled 'bee'. The b of 'bee' can be likewise broken down, and you can continue thus ad infinitum.

All of this is to say that there is a considerable precedent for what you're talking about.

2: Reminds me of Origen who, taking a cue from the Neo-Platonists, believed that all spirits were created equal and became what they are (human, angel, demon) through a fall or a series of falls. He posits also that the falls can be reversed--demon to human, human to angel, angel to original being.

Anyway...

--Mark

Laudate Deum!

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