Satanic Witch

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Original post: Enidzpayne

Does anyone know how I can obtain a pdf version of the Satanic Witch by Anton Lavey? If anyone does please post the link here or private message it to me.

Please spare any lectures about copyright and the like. I'd like to read it as soon as possible without having to wait for delivery. If I can't obtain a pdf I will order, would probably order it any just to have the copy, but I'd like to read it now.

Thanks Again,
Enidzpayne

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Original post: Nairhti

Not to be rude...

But why don't you go search for it yourself?
There's a great website called: http://www.google.com

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Original post: corneliamarie

That book is ridiculous.

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Original post: Thorn

That book is ridiculous.

explain

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Original post: Master 27

[QUOTE=Thorn;376346]explain[/QUOTE]

Anyone who takes the time to flip through that book won't need an explanation.

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Original post: herne's son

The book basically is how a woman can become magically manipulative and be a sex object...it's been years and years ago since I've read it....but that's what I got from the book.

[Enlilki]

Not just for this pdf, but for people who dont care to buy the book or cannot find it go to torrentscan.com. Play around with search queries and I bet you will find a huge amount of occult pdf's.

[VenusSatanas]

The Satanic Witch had nothing to do with witchcraft:

Link: The Satanic Witch at SpiritualSatanist.com
http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/articl ... craft.html

[Frater_Malkuth]

Enlilki,

I would greatly advise not promoting such theft on this online community. Don't get me wrong, bittorrent and other p2p services are great for finding hard to get material, and perfect for stuff out of print or in the public domain. However do not advocate stealing readily available books from modern authors. Many of these author's only source of revenue is through book sales.

When you download copyrighted material YOU are STEALING, just like shoplifting a book from a local shop.

[Enlilki]

True, but stealing readily available books I'm sure carries the same consequence as those hard to find materials and out of print materials.. p2p software and bittorrent are great for it according to your post...I dont think the law cares when it comes to popularity.

Maybe neither of us should advocate such theft on this online community lol

[Zelos]

Literature is an odd thing as far as legality goes. There actually are situations when it's quite legal to download entire PDFs of books once they've been out of print for a number of years, though I don't personally know the requirements for when it in fact becomes legal to do so... As Malkuth mentioned before, would have to check out public domain laws.

(Honestly this all goes down to liability issues, which generally wouldn't be an issue in this case, but it could occur if people got into specifics.)

[Vashta]

In Britain, a work becomes public domain 50 years after it was published, except where the author assigned copyright to the crown, in which case 70 years after the death of the author.

The laws vary depending on whether the document was published or unpublished, and whether it was a parliamentary/government document, but those are rough guidelines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain has more information on the topic

Anyone posting copyright materials (or copyleft materials without including, at the very least, a link to the necessary document license) will have their post removed or edited, persistent offenders will be subject to disciplinary action.

Documents in the public domain are fine, but we're straying off topic here

I've never read The Satanic Witch, is it good? The posts above don't exactly exhalt it lol

[Shaam]

http://www.satanic-kindred.org/witch.htm

This is an interesting site...with some sensitive illustrations.

For someone who has not had a previous curiosity about satanic witchcraft....it explained quite a bit to me..more than I ever wanted to know...lol.

[Venefica]

The Satanic Witch had nothing to do with witchcraft:

Link: The Satanic Witch at SpiritualSatanist.com
http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/articl ... craft.html

Since you can say that Satanic witchcraft have nothing to do with witchcraft, what is it that you think witchcraft is? For by my definition of witchcraft Satanic witchcraft is a witchcraft path like any other.

[Shaam]

Witchcraft in itself..in most of the traditions...follows no rede or three-fold law. You pull from whatever to do what you need to do. Main thing is a balance that fits in with your personal and traditional morals.

Those of us who follow a shamanic path...do the same thing. I pull from what I need to pull from to do the task at hand. The purpose is to balance..and sometimes you have to do what you need to do. It's the same for the protection of my people. I take the responsibility for all of my actions...and I truly think that's the only way to do it.

[VenusSatanas]

The Satanic Witch had nothing to do with witchcraft:

Link: The Satanic Witch at SpiritualSatanist.com
http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/articl ... craft.html

Since you can say that Satanic witchcraft have nothing to do with witchcraft, what is it that you think witchcraft is? For by my definition of witchcraft Satanic witchcraft is a witchcraft path like any other.

Yes, i talked about that on my site..how the SW was a sexist book written by LaVey, that had nothing to do with the actual practices of witchcraft or magic. Then, I discussed terms of witchcraft and how its practice can be applied to the path of satanism.

And yes, witchcraft is used in many different paths, including Satanism. Its just that LaVey is hardly a definitive source for this information.

[Venefica]

Witchcraft in itself..in most of the traditions...follows no rede or three-fold law. You pull from whatever to do what you need to do. Main thing is a balance that fits in with your personal and traditional morals.

Exactly. Witchcraft is a practical practice, and it existed long before Gardener decided witches should be goodie goodie.

Yes, i talked about that on my site..how the SW was a sexist book written by LaVey, that had nothing to do with the actual practices of witchcraft or magic. Then, I discussed terms of witchcraft and how its practice can be applied to the path of satanism.

What is magick my dear? While there is some traditional rituals in the Satanic Witch, and some talk of the occult, for the most part it is a how to book for how women can use their sexuality to spin men around their little finger and get whatever they like. But then, is that not a part of many legends of the witch, a woman that can get what she want out of any man, is not in a way all the tricks, and all the mind fucks in that book a good example on changing reality to get what one want out of it? In this case changing the minds of men.

And yes, witchcraft is used in many different paths, including Satanism. Its just that LaVey is hardly a definitive source for this information.

There is no definitive source of information about witchcraft, just allot of different sources with allot of different people's experiences and opinions. Witchcraft is not something one can have a definitive answer to.

[VenusSatanas]

There have been many definitive books on witchcraft. Paul huson, for one. The compleat witches bible by farrar.. Hell, even Michael ford's luciferian witchcraft was better and more comprehensive than the SW.

SW is sexist, imo. and had more to do with 'how to look pretty and score a man' than how to use any kind of real witchcraft. you dont have to be a witch to get laid haha... Lavey should have labeled his book, 'sexual manipulationcraft' instead.

edit: according to the SB, sexual manipulation falls under the category of 'low magic'. No ritual or magic required, just simple manipulation to get what you want.

[Venefica]

There have been many definitive books on witchcraft. Paul huson, for one. The compleat witches bible by farrar.. Hell, even Michael ford's luciferian witchcraft was better and more comprehensive than the SW.

My dear I think you mix together the word definitive and good. Definitive would mean a description of what something is to the exclusion of all other and no, there are no such books, there are no exclusive definition of witchcraft. Some practitioners of various paths of witchcraft sometime like to claim that their definition, their type of witchcraft is the only type there is, but that is just arrogance. There are many good books on witchcraft, but not definite ones.

SW is sexist, imo. and had more to do with 'how to look pretty and score a man' than how to use any kind of real witchcraft. you dont have to be a witch to get laid haha... Lavey should have labeled his book, 'sexual manipulationcraft' instead.

How is it sexist? Well perhaps it is sexist against men. The book describes how any woman, young, old, pretty, ugly, thin, fat any appearance with the right steps can manipulate a man with her looks to get what she want. Now there are few things more natural. One of the first words for man simply meant provider of riches, or translated into more modern term, walking wallet. Now I am not saying that a woman have to manipulate a man, or that that is all women do, but I am saying that from the time human beings first developed language woman knew how to get what they want from men by using their femininity, how is it sexist to make use of the fact that we quite often can spin a man around our little finger. Men are stronger physically, women are better at manipulation, it is part of nature.

Now whatever or not you want to call this magick, now that is up to you. It is the same as with herbalism, some people say that it is part of the old wisdom, it was once seen as part of magick, so magick it is, others say that herbalism is completely mundane. The definitions of what is and what is not magick is very individual, and if you do not have the same definitions as LaVey then fine, that is up to you, but what is the point of complaining over what definitions others hold?

[VenusSatanas]

Over the years LaVey has gotten some bad reviews from many different camps for the Satanic Witch, even within his own ranks. regardless of this, can the 'Satanic Witch' be useful to anyone else outside of LaVeyan Satanism?

You do know that LaVey based his ideas solely from the work of Sheldon and his 'somatotype' stereotype, a method which is considered to be outdated, antiquated, in modern psychology? Also, LaVeys use of the sexual stereotype was a mockery of the Christian's prudish ways? Do read Blanche barton's assessment of LaVey's Satanic Witch, explaining her view on how LaVey intended to exploit women but label it as 'witchcraft'.

[DrMummy]

When men see a woman who is sexually attractive, it directly stimulates the pleasure centers in the brain.

As a guy, an aggressive sexual advance from a beautiful woman is sensory overload. It most definitely induces an intense trance state.

If you can get a man in this state, he's very easily suggestible. VERY EASILY SUGGESTIBLE.

In this state, any magick that's put upon them will become very deeply ingrained with their psyche.

I suppose that one would aim to induce this state through as little effort as possible. (i.e. subtle body language vs. a lap dance)

So maybe, while not being about magick or witchcraft explicitly, it might be considered an analysis of a certain technique used to induce a trance state in men.

Regardless of whether you find it palatable, it is practical. Also, like any other technique in magick it comes with it's own unintended consequences if used without regard to all the effects it may have.

Just a thought.

[VenusSatanas]

I agree. I also think that LaVey was more on to the 'physical' side of what he called magic.. instead of the spiritual or occult aspects.