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Where is the Prince?.......Jezebel.

http://www.womeninthebible.net/1.12.Jezebel.htm

Knossos Palace is in Crete,centre of the mediterranean & a former capital of Phoenecia.To the west the other capitol was Venice(formerly phoenicia) & to the East,Joppa(pre biblical called.yup.....phoenicia)

Many other Phoenician Cities mentioned in the link,Baal & Ashtarte.

Babel the gate of god is simply knowledge,or in this case lost or scattered knowledge which is being pulled back together again.

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I fail to see what you are getting at?

Please explain further...

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The new world order is based on Phonecian Template,world takeover being in a similar style to the formation of Scotland the Nation in 973 ad(minimum bloodshed-some folk don't even notice anything has happened.

In a nutshell.

Jezebel is also a great song to sing when fishing.

"If ever there was a devil,without any horns....Jezebel it was you,it was you...............Jez-ahhh-behhhhh-eh'eh-eh-ELL

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Ok, get you now.

I only got confused because you posted it in Reason and Unreason. But perhaps you got an angle on that too?


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I hardly think the new world order has anything to do with being ANGELIC or DEMONIC.

when you come to think about it, every demon is like the other half" of an angel. Unless you have your HGA and HGD both with you, you can't do proper alchemy. Maybe they're the same persons.

Hey, maybe Yahweh an Baal were always the same guy. LOL. Playing with people's heads.

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[QUOTE=sami999x;296787]I hardly think the new world order has anything to do with being ANGELIC or DEMONIC.

when you come to think about it, every demon is like the other half" of an angel. Unless you have your HGA and HGD both with you, you can't do proper alchemy. Maybe they're the same persons.

Hey, maybe Yahweh an Baal were always the same guy. LOL. Playing with people's heads.[/QUOTE]

I agree totally Sami.A wise man told me god jumps out his back door to be Lucifer too.

Sami,I'm not trying to piss you off unneccessarily,so I ask you in all honesty,what is your relationship with Sameal the Angel,or do you have a view on Archangels?

Ther reason I ask is that the lass I am on aboutwas in touch last night with me,saying that she would be discussing some matters with Samael,her favourite archangel.For a laugh she asked me if I wanted her to ask him any questions.

Loh & behold,I open my first pm & you fucking answer my main question for me in very frank & honest terms.lolz.(confirming the truth I knew)
I feel like some people are reading me like a book right now.The right kind of people mind you,so this is cool.Hell,Mr Nam is even drawing pictures of me.

?

Un-fucking-canny if you ask me,guess we are all connected.

Hey Deviadah,I like this thread,how both sides of the coin can be legitametly looked at,as well as the rim-Atalantean is never far away from my thoughts & is the biggest part of me.

& Singing songs attracts the fish,Jezebel is a killer when sea fishing!

Cheers Andy

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Don't forget DAGON:

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I get a big Nordic Pantheon vibe from Dagon,Elder Futhark older stuff involving TYR,before Tyr was split up into 2 or 3 deities & Dagon was labelled Grain Man.

I like anomolies like Phillistine & even closer to home to me *Pict*,both having Phoenician roots.A lot of Phoenicians were clamorous & turbulent,everyone was.Occasioaly father & son would fall out big time & someone had to leave.

Same stuff happens today,exact mirror.

cheers for the heads up on Dagon,head of the Phillistine 200 strong Pantheon.

Wow!

Cheers

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Andy, I'll PM you, big bro.

And I'm never pissed. I just act that way to make people question themselves.

Personaly, I really was trying very hard to connect to Samael's wife for a looooong time. She was supposed to be my HGD.

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OKay, about the Samael part, I kinda don't know. Like there's an equal number of resources telling us he was a archdemon vs. an archangel. Because that goes along with the proper methods of alchemy where you have to have the Higher and Lower self working together. When you come to think of it, old Jewish writings are the best sources to find out about such things, which most of us don't have that much access to.

And also some sufis in that case. For example, some Arab and Indian bloodlines have men who are their own HGD, while being guided by an HGA female. And some have women that are their own HGA, while being guided by an HGD male. And vice versa. And whenever they have too much dogma in the family, or just lack of teachings, they have the poltergeist phenomena because of having lack of control. Like a cousin of my grandmother, who had some stuff happen around her. Hers was a young demon though, and can't be exorcised. He's her friend.

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[QUOTE=sami999x;296787]I hardly think the new world order has anything to do with being ANGELIC or DEMONIC.

when you come to think about it, every demon is like the other half" of an angel. Unless you have your HGA and HGD both with you, you can't do proper alchemy. Maybe they're the same persons.

Hey, maybe Yahweh an Baal were always the same guy. LOL. Playing with people's heads.[/QUOTE]


Lolz,aye of course he was the same guy,just pissed of with the mhanky priests of Baal so got rid of them.

Archangel Samael has a wife-yeah why not!I never thought of that.

I am with you on Divine Daemonn.

For 50 years of Scotlands History(late 13th/early 14th),for a maiden beauty was a curse for Scotland suffered a period of English Occupation.In these dark & horrible times,a hero arrived in the shape of the Bruce(King Robert the Bruce) At his side came his trusty Leiftenant the Blak Douglas(Dhub Glass=Dark water).A fucking dark Daemonic Bastard we Scots called Douglass the Guid.Quite a few English Dined at "the Douglas Larder".lolz.

We Scots still have the EXACT same Daemon looking over us & in 2014 we celebrate the 700th anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn,same year as Glasgow,Strathclyde celebrates having the Commonwealth Games.


Hey deviadah,I am likeing DAGON more & more,must be him who sticks the fish on my hooks when I sing Jezebel.wtf has he got to do with Grain?lolz

Nice underarm passing move he is doing in the picture,like one you try to do if someone trys to stab you & you try to deflect it or give it back to him,Phillipino Pen Jak Salat or Kali fighting method.lolz

Nice one

Namaste

Andy.

ps nice insight into poltergeist Sami,armed with Yoga Abartha,stand & fight.

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Andy... PM me about the lass you speak of, big bro.

Is she okay? Healthy? is she alive out there?

If not, I need to get her up and running.

PLEASE PM me about the lass, Andy. She needs hugs. And she likes them. Although she might pretend otherwise. Except I know I'm the only guy who gives her the best hugs. And she ends up thinking it's always a fake one. Last time I checked, she felt the same way about my attitude toward sex. We whores & nerds are always in self denial.

LOL.

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Andy... PM me about the lass you speak of, big bro.

Is she okay? Healthy? is she alive out there?

If not, I need to get her up and running.

PLEASE PM me about the lass, Andy. She needs hugs. And she likes them. Although she might pretend otherwise. Except I know I'm the only guy who gives her the best hugs. And she ends up thinking it's always a fake one. Last time I checked, she felt the same way about my attitude toward love-making. We whores & nerds are always in self denial.

LOL.

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Could you please remore the 2nd last post above? mods? I double posted.

Andy, if the God = Lucifer theory is right, then here's how this works.

Jesus, Samael, Judas, and people from Roman authorities drink "wine" together. And then JUdas decides to play the "traitor" drama. And Roman authorities play the "oh so evil dictator" drama. And then good people in Roman authorities test the others by ordering the crucifixion drama. And then Judas also plays the "hanged traitor" drama. And any magician like Jesus would already *know* that there's no such thing as death/ demolition. Because he'd have the *psychic faculties* and not just faith. Due to the techniques he knew. So, in the end, the Roman Emperor gives the horned sign, and says something like "HAIL SATAN", and "kills" Jesus. And Judas says "SATAN TRICKED ME", and hangs himself. And in the middle, we'd have Samael, from Judaism, plaguing and destroying Rome. And other stuff. And he'd know that none of his Roman buddies ever died. And they just needed new bodies.

And that's how dogmatic people are created by illuminated individuals. They have to be brainwashed. They argue about stuff like,

1. Jews "killed" Jesus (anti-Semitic Crusader comments)
2. Jesus was/ wasn't the Messiah (Muslims/ Christians/ Jews)
3. Jews "hates" Jesus (anti-Semitic Muslim comments)
4. jesus died/ didn't die (Christians vs. Jews)
4. Jesus was crucified/ wasn't crucified (Muslims vs. Christians)

And we gotta keep in mind that the best way to control a society with the "hell/ forsaken/ sinner" dogma, which states that they are limited to their body only. The technique is the "get them thinking" and "makes them think they are not God." And that makes them become jerks with prejudices. And after that, their energy systems get jammed/ destroyed. Starting with the Heart Chakra. And then they will be having sexual insecurities, attention problems, and turning into jerks.

Except new bodies are needed after old ones are destroyed due to dogmas. That is how "demonic angels" work, my friend. Samael was the accuser, the judge, and the punisher. Except we keep in mind that high-flying beings already know that the mind is not limited to the body. It's a matter of making the connection.

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Knossos Palace is in Crete,centre of the mediterranean & a former capital of Phoenecia.To the west the other capitol was Venice(formerly phoenicia) & to the East,Joppa(pre biblical called.yup.....phoenicia)

Knossos was a palace on Crete that was the seat of the Minoan kings, ancient sea faring proto-Greeks that disappeared or were dispersed before the advent of historical Phoenicia. They also never, to my knowledge, founded a city around the Lagoon area where Venice sits today.

But do you mean Phoenicia as a metaphor or something? Kind of a confusing topic, hence why it's now in Creative Spirituality for lack of a better place.

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I have been to Knossis,my bro in law is from Crete.Early phoenicians evolved into Minoan who were dirty bastards sacrificing shit & the queen like to be fucked by bulls,hence the Minotaur(hope Naomi isn't reading this).Minoan is Phonecian same as Scots & gaels are phonecian,just evolved differentlu(thank fuck).

ie we evolved into the Celtic Church,which was quickly surpassed by Christian then scots travelled south to spread the word.

It was common practice to name coatal towns on each side of a stretch of water the same.

ie dalraita in Ireland faces Dalriada in Scotland.I'll try & get a link to you on Phonecia(Venetia / Venetia.My bro in law has maps in Phonecian/Minoan of Crete,I'll check it out.

Phonecians also inhabited the Island of Pompei,until the Romans evicted them.Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

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OK Sami,I'll need to get my head around your posting.

You talking about Sekhmet?

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Not JUST Sekhmet.

We shouldn't limit the "illuminated individual's" control mechanisms to just one or two Gods/ Esses.

For all we know, Gods never had anything left to learn. Humans probably should learn that they're family.

The key here is to NEVER limit the possibilities of how far this equation can go.

"God = Lucifer's dad = Lilith = Mary's mom = Mohammed = Jesus = Samael = Selene = GAOTU = Native America Gods = illuminated individuals enlightening Earth chimpanzees"

Kinda like that. Except it could go further.

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I have been to Knossis,my bro in law is from Crete.Early phoenicians evolved into Minoan who were dirty bastards sacrificing shit & the queen like to be fucked by bulls,hence the Minotaur(hope Naomi isn't reading this).Minoan is Phonecian same as Scots & gaels are phonecian,just evolved differentlu(thank fuck).

That's a cool theory, never heard it put quite that way. My mum used to always say that the Welsh were of phoenician stock, as they traded tin and are odd little dark skinned fellows.

But, are you saying that today's society is derived from Pheonician society? I mean, look at Carthage, the largest and most powerful ex-colony of the Phoenicians, they were actually defeated by the Romans and according to some revisionist hisotry, were actually a bit more peacable than Rome ever was.

The Romans accused the Carthaginians of sacrificing babies etc, but that's not been proved. Don't let the enemy tell the story.

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We could put both Atlantis, and Shamballa in place. Besides Phoenecia

For example, at least from my personal experience, I'd say the strongest of vampiric female beings I've worked with were associated with Eastern mystical kingdoms. Except my (pseudo-mom) redhead HGD is the only one that could ever calm me down (astral). And stop me from exploding.

Except it's hard for me to 'use' vampiric powers. I rather have a fear of "overloading" any girl I have sex with, unless they're a strong psy-vamp. That's why my grandmother died from a fever. While my dad was about 9 years old. Because my grandfather was as energetic as me.

And as for Atlantis, I know some stuff, without studying or learning lessons. Because of family background. Those beings are more like Albino females. They rather help channel energy without destruction. For manifestation.

I could be wrong. But at least from my experience, all of us could have many different aspects. It's like taking control of our multiple bodies. I read about this in one single book about Kundalini, where we have multiple bodies.

So, while physical origin of humanity could be in Phoenecia, or Africa, the other elements could have come from directions that are unexplored. Which is why we have the chakras, and other stuff.

I kinda "think" Africa is the most logical explanation, though.

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*And also some sufis in that case. For example, some Arab and Indian bloodlines have men who are their own HGD, while being guided by an HGA female. And some have women that are their own HGA, while being guided by an HGD male. And vice versa. And whenever they have too much dogma in the family, or just lack of teachings, they have the poltergeist phenomena because of having lack of control. Like a cousin of my grandmother, who had some stuff happen around her. Hers was a young demon though, and can't be exorcised. He's her friend.*

Sami,you do not get enough credit for the insight you have in such matters,this exact theory is recognised in Scots tradition where everyone in every house has a *spirit*,not to be confused with*Brownies* although they could be one & the same thing in some cases.

Also phonecian sea people is an early greek/Minoan label,Celtos to the west & Phenius(Fenius) to the east being the sons of the Minoan God,as symbolised in the Minoan Double Headed axe(we fight to the east/we fight to the west)

Origin of life is *Africa*,Phonecians being good sailors(Atlantis) & traders & mercenary,Phoenius Pharsah the Phonecian(Fenius Farsah the Fenian) sending his sons all over the world to examine the ways of all people for the purposes of trade at the Tower of Babel,though his hq was Crete.

A Fenian is also a close relative of the wood elf.

Nevertheless,the NWO is template Phonecian Strategy *for better trade* or easier control.

European HQ is still in the Mediterranean Strategically placed Crete,Babel being in Brussels?

Strong *rupee*(Euro-pean)means they can't trade so............they have to try & weaken it or they fall flat on their asses?

Sami,the Turkish lass with the strong Samael connection was on here last week,sent me some pm's.She has healed.

I like your perspective Sami.

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he he.... dem monkey girls are welcome......

oh, when guys like me say "spirits" we only say it so brainless meatheads can understand. we actually mean ugly pink/green shit (girly faces). Even the skinniest of TECH-NERDS can take them.

And we do NOT like it when the pink/green spirits (girly-faces who cause disease) try to mix into OUR GALS. But they have a manner of CRYING going "WHYYYYYY" like REJECTED LOSERS. like back in highschool. And shoving burqas, since all girls always find them ugly. And they have to SHOVE THE BURQAS to make girls fat (ie. lack of sex). Also they STAB PEOPLE for not agreeing to DO FEMALE CIRCUMCISIONS, like some *scottish* imams I once met. He looked kinda like green bird shit-face thanks to the crazy facial hair....

And as for "RUPEE", that word originated from a hindi term meaning SILVER. I guess you guys never made sense of a thing but sounds and screeches. :evil:


But dem monkey gals are welcome..... Dey are like KITTIES.....


man... you guys are making me.... hungry. You won't like me when I am.... hungy.... (bc I am a slob)

I bet Dagon would be PISSED if anyone ever said he was some "pink/green fairy...."

btw, the email scams kinda annoyed me. This time, the wildlife pissed me off too much.

Should be considered a Thanksgiving day bonus. I hope it helps afford some good booze/cigarettes than provided by the shelters. Also better bras/undies than provided by the refugee-care systems. I hope it also helps them afford to take a shower at least once each day....


The pink/green ugly and bald ones (the ones that cause cancers, and wanna mate with our daughters. which makes the gals wanna vomit when looking at them, yet the fairies try to portray otherwise by shoving the no-swimsuit-laws) , though, should have stayed where Alex and his great-aunts put them. They made a big mistake by getting out of the fences. And the cancers drew funny pics of Alex.

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btw, the Rosicrucians did NOT need the beacon, Andy.

it is just that they have a manner of misleading those with more knowledge. And then getting PUSHY, as long as they can mislead and self-engrandize. makes them an Anti-Evolution factor, since they are just pushy.

When anyone else is FULLY aware, and they are just the ones who ACT NASTY down here. After the repititive annoyance.

Like that female creatures from UK. I guess they lack control over the muscular contractions, and the .... fluids. Same as BEES being attracted to honey/flowers.

Except males that annoy you...... The decision was made by long ago. it is just that I ended up showing too much compassion.

Just that there is a difference between Knowledge, and "enlightened words".

Mainly when they have nothing there.

So, your beacon does NOT WORK. Oh man, you guys overestimate your intellect.

I took it personally.

Oh that YE OLDE KINGDOM OF YE OLDE Atlantis, I guess they never learned to pardon the illegal immigrants/smugglers/traders without government permission....

it is just that ALL psychics are psychics.

Some just have a manner of annoying/then acting nasty. To self-engrandize (i.e. God is coming. Please believe my enlightend quotes. I have knowledge. Let me have some energy. Look my muscles are growing with exercize, and not by drainage).


Actually, men NOT get hungry. Just angry. I am not hungry.

Family men, though, have lots of ladies to take care of. Always. Some Greeks, I heard, used to have like 13 gals in bedroom each night. But for hugs/energy givings/being buddies/chilling/platonic buddy relations.

Guys just Grill/burn/bake. While showing off our bod, like at the beach or backyard to get rid of anxiety. And the gals enjoy the menu.

I guess that was why Alex was so charming.....

Funny paintings and rumors/catch-terms are nice, though. Makes *anybody* look like Heath Ledger's character make-up in the new Bat-movie. He looks awesome, .... like prince Chucky...... but yet NOT GREEN enough to look like shit found in african jungles....

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What Beacon Sami?

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BTW, How's the Bible helping you antichrists now? :evil:

I miss the good old "be like Jesus" talk.....

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he he.... now that the servitor/symbiote is burned out.... no more enlightened/nice words.



Andy, it hasn't been that long since you guys got out, has it?

And the pamphlets, and funny pictures were always funny. with the "EXTRA EXTRA" until done teaching people doctrines where you guys wanna say that earth is ROUND. :o GTFO!!!! :rolleyes:



Like, you guys have found out too much about our home planet by reading off books. And you didn't steal them without the "be like JEsus, show mercy" part. NOW WE MUST DESTROY YOU...... we are LEGION. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimilated or obliterated. HAIL THE BORG COLLECTIVE!!!!


And I'm not prejudiced. it's just that I don't like the ones with LONG/POINTY ears either. They make you wanna throw up whn not hiding/asking for mercy.

The pointy eared ones make nice target practice. LIke when shooting down some killer pitt bulls.

They were short on the olden days. I bet they only got tall by preaching the BIBLICAL concept of hypocritical love (where you're supposed to romance them nasty losers right away. or else you're going to hell). if not then they had those churches....

I know our gals were taller....

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