HELP Dream interpretation needed - possible demon

[gavi]

This is my first time in this forum. I was trying to google on demons in my dream but all I can find does not answer my questions. These dreams are so vivid recently that I am afraid to fall asleep. My religion bans me from questioning but right now I am at my wits end.

1. I dreamt of 12 tall men with blue auras sitting around me in a circle. Their legs as tall as I. Whether they are demons, I do not know. However they are handsome. They keep asking me the same question - what did my mother experience or ask for when she gave birth to me. I asked her and she said amongst the 3 ladies in the maternity ward - she was the only one with a normal baby (me) while the other gave birth to a cyclops and another - her baby was strangled by the cord. She said that she prayed to God for a normal child. I answered those 12 whatever they are and they still keep asking in my dreams.

2. They also showed me the one called Samael. He is a goodlooking gentleman with a book (aura green) and a pen. Samael in Christian faith would be the devil yet they called him an archangel.

3. The place I was in was extremely cold. I was standing within the circle of what appears to be inscribed with a sort of hieroglyph but not like the egyptian type.

4. I am now doubting if good and evil exist because each time I wake up - some sort of realisation occurs to me that it is the laws anD morals of man which give it this definition. Those 12 laughed at me when I prayed in my dream.

These dreams have continued for the past 2 weeks. If anyone has an idea how to stop it or deal with it, I will be grateful.

[Etar]

Dreams are too personal, I think. Do you have any contact with the occult?

Anyway, stop it? Lesser Banishing Rituals of the Pentagram and of the Hexagram.

[gavi]

Dreams are too personal, I think. Do you have any contact with the occult?

Anyway, stop it? Lesser Banishing Rituals of the Pentagram and of the Hexagram.

My encounter is more paranormal. The oldest girl of the generation will be able to see spirits or sense them. I was what the Christians said possessed. I was 10 years old when it first happened. No exorcist crap seen in the movies but I was countering the pastor on Jesus Christ who thought that the 'devil' was in me. So he did what those fanatical pentecostal shitheads did - perform an exorcism. I did blacked out. From what I knew, he would not go near me at all after I got up. Apparently I threw 2 grown adults off their feet and spoke in a different voice.

My oldest aunt sees things but never communicated with spirits. From what I know, my 'invisible friend' who only appeared for a year of my childhood was a dead brother I never knew of until he asked me to ask my mother who promptly gave me a thrashing of my life. She had miscarried.

The ouija board I played with at age 15 with friends gave a msg : " we want to speak to you". I turned devout christian immediately but I still see things or smell death around me. The night my aunt killed herself, I heard her voice calling for help.

That is only a few things which happened in my life.

[Occultess]

I'm probably not the best person to interpret your dream, but....I've never heard of a blue aura in a bad context. It would probably be helpful to go look up what different aura colors mean (although, I have heard there can be different interpretations).

Outside of that, there are a lot of things on this forum written about Samael. If you write the name into the Occult Forum search bar, it will give you a list of all the posts that have the name Samael written in it. There are quite a few, but it might help you understand part of your dream. And there are also lots of people on this forum that don't subscribe to the idea of good and evil, so you aren't alone in that.

I've heard it said that recurring dreams stop after you've figured out their meaning, so....I'm thinking that might be true here.

[Etar]

Hm, well, I repeat my advice. LBRP, LBRH.

[akimbomoss]

Samael is an angel of death. So is Azrael and Michael. Michael has the word Thanatos on his seal which means death. Michael's aura is blue according to most of the internet. Michael is also the angel of protection.

When ill-dignified Samael means "the blind God". A cyclops has no depth perception.

If a baby got strangled by it's umbilical did it's fetch kill it? Hmm.

12 angels either refers to the apostles or the hanged man, or the old crappy astrology system that was supposed to have 13 signs not 12.

So why were you born? Maybe to realize that your family was a little crazy, depending too much on the dogmas of ye old christianity. The angels transcend christianity appearing in many religions including islam and judaism. Since they have conflicting views about the angels the only thing we know is they keep appearing and have well defined names and jobs.

If you don't like that dream why don't you just charge those blue men? Stuff that happens in the dream world doesn't mean the same thing in this world. Full steam ahead. Chew-chew. Train comin' at chew what chew gonna do?

[LandOfShadows]

Hi Gavi,

I think the circle you have reached are the beings I call Compainions, we each have them, they are normally ten in number and linked to each of our own chakra points (there are exceptions to that rule), normaly you need to call to them for them to be aware of you, as you have used a Ouija board it may have been then, or if you have ever had an out of body experience/near death event.

This is how I picture such beings.



They tend to appear how our minds cast them, this can be via culture, nurture or just how their energy feels to us.

Here is how Sam-Ael appears to me.



Hope this is of some use.

Steve

[akimbomoss]

Hi Gavi,

They tend to appear how our minds cast them, this can be via culture, nurture or just how their energy feels to us.

Here is how Sam-Ael appears to me.

Just thought I'd mention that Samael or Σαμαηλ as the greeks call him is considered to be a good angel and they call his name in rituals of protection and good luck (warning, link requires registration and is in greek) http://mageiasgnosi.forumup.gr/viewtopi ... geiasgnosi

Samael also means severity of God.

Why do these blue companions laugh when you pray do you think? Kind of reminds me of Don Juan when Carlos Castaneda sees "God" and Don Juan laughs at him saying God can do nothing for you if you pray. That might make sense if you believe there are 2 Gods like in Gnostism... the true God and the demiurge or half creator. I pray to the archangels and leave the God part to them personally.

[LandOfShadows]

Hi,

One other thing to mention is, the pronounciation of the below Angel can cause confussion with Sam-Ael:



And here is what good old Wiki has to say: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael

For me I felt no goodness in this energy, it was the bleakest and darkest of energy I called upon, banishing it was easy, as it felt like it had no time for me any way. From readin the Wiki, first time I have looked up or read up on Samael, I can see some links to how I envisaged Sam-Ael, infact the card for Sam-Ael in my Tarot deck looks very much like the image on Wiki...



LoS
Steve

[Nahemah]

First up: Hi gavi and welcome. [grin]

Wow.Me,I 'd be seeking more visitations with them,not how to stop it.
If you want to stop it,do as Etar says,but be aware that this will most likely be temporary and what is suppressed in one direction may well pop up in another.
Sometimes the only way out is through,in the end.
In saying that,though, learning the ritual actions Etar posted about,will help you get the peace you need for rest and sleep till you work this out more. [thumbup]

http://www.squidoo.com/lbrp2

You can vibrate the words in English or your own native language [if not English],if you prefer it.

This is my first time in this forum. I was trying to google on demons in my dream but all I can find does not answer my questions. These dreams are so vivid recently that I am afraid to fall asleep. My religion bans me from questioning but right now I am at my wits end.

A religion that bars questioning is one that cannot stand up against such questions.You should not have to feel at your wits end about this or about asking questions,it's human to do so and it's healthy to do so.We don't learn and grow unless we question.

1. I dreamt of 12 tall men with blue auras sitting around me in a circle. Their legs as tall as I. Whether they are demons, I do not know. However they are handsome. They keep asking me the same question - what did my mother experience or ask for when she gave birth to me. I asked her and she said amongst the 3 ladies in the maternity ward - she was the only one with a normal baby (me) while the other gave birth to a cyclops and another - her baby was strangled by the cord. She said that she prayed to God for a normal child. I answered those 12 whatever they are and they still keep asking in my dreams.

Hmm.They still keep asking,so I suppose they want more info.I 'd guess your mother felt a lot of conflicting emotions,like relief and joy at your safe and healthy arrival,coupled with a sense of compassion and sadness,for the other less fortunate mothers and children and maybe even a little guilt about being happy for herself in the face of others sorrows.

That is also very normal and human and I remember being similarly affected,during stays in maternity wards.One of these times, I knew the lady beside me was going to give birth to a dead baby,as did she and it was so sad and distressing for her and for the others around her.We could not help,only try to be sensitive,though that was difficult to do,as we were not her and did not have to grieve as she was.

I don't know if that's helpful at all.I might be wrong,but it 's worth a though or two.

2. They also showed me the one called Samael. He is a good looking gentleman with a book (aura green) and a pen. Samael in Christian faith would be the devil yet they called him an archangel.

As akimbomoss says,it's more complex than that.Samael is an agent of God and indeed an Archangel.Severity of God can be compared with Judgement of God,too.The book and pen interest me,in this vision.

3. The place I was in was extremely cold. I was standing within the circle of what appears to be inscribed with a sort of hieroglyph but not like the egyptian type.

Are you familiar with Astrology at all? If I show you some glyphs maybe you would recognise them.

4. I am now doubting if good and evil exist because each time I wake up - some sort of realisation occurs to me that it is the laws anD morals of man which give it this definition. Those 12 laughed at me when I prayed in my dream.

These dreams have continued for the past 2 weeks. If anyone has an idea how to stop it or deal with it, I will be grateful.

Good and evil do exist but they are the concepts and qualities of man,not God and they are dualistic opposites that often contradict each other,when too strictly applied in a religious sense.

These beings might well be what others would call Angels of the hours,the Astrological angels.

Have a look here gavi and read around the site,please.It might be helpful and /or interesting to you.

http://www.archangels-and-angels.com/aa ... index.html

[cactusjack543]

samuel a devil a master of rules of darkness and sin fleing the land. the 12 our his enemy chosen to be friends with this is your dream

[manofsands]

Dont know if youre still looking for help with this, I have a couple questions if you are.

1) how did you FEEL in the dream? Scared, comfortable...etc

2) WHY do you think they showed you Samael?

3) what do you think was in his book?

4) can you draw/describe the symbol?

5) can you rephrase this... what you mean?

I am now doubting if good and evil exist because each time I wake up - some sort of realisation occurs to me that it is the laws anD morals of man which give it this definition.

6) in another post you speak of coming to Christianity... after becoming afraid... is that so? what were your beliefs before?

I already think I can help you with this, but if you answer these questions I think itd clench it.

[minatour87]

I would suggest getting the book Inner Work by Robert Johnson. The second half of the book is a four step dream interpretation. The book is based on Jung's work. I have used this book for years.
peace
Minatour87

[Asurendra]

I repeat my standard caveat: I am speaking only in general and based upon the given information. Really going into dreams required communication with the dreamer so if I am way off understand I am only offering an opinion.
Gavi very neatly clarifies for us exactly what the issue is that this dream communicates which he finds so disturbing: “My religion bans me from questioning.” But that is exactly what the dream does. “I am now doubting if good and evil exist because each time I wake up - some sort of realisation occurs to me that it is the laws and morals of man which give it this definition. Those 12 laughed at me when I prayed in my dream.”
The impression I have is that Gavis is associated with Evangelical Christians but I wonder if he is not in India.
Gavis is confronted by a council of 12 beings which are clearly images of Devas. That there are 12 means there is a cosmic or higher significance so they are Celestial. They represent what he REALLY believes and that is why they laughed at him when he prayed to Jehovah.
The Devas first confront him with questions about his ‘mother’ and his ‘birth.’ This is not his physical mother; it is the Christian church. At his ‘birth,’ there was also a monster and a death. On the surface, these seem to be his associations with his Orthodox religion. The Cyclopes is a powerful giant with limited vision and who is represented in mythology as a tyrant. The strangulation of the third infant reflects what he feels his ‘birth’ has done to him.
The Devas then seem to place him in a circle with ancient writing. This is clearly a magical space and that it is “cold” would mean that it a place his consciousness has abandoned. Here he confronts not a generic ‘devil’ but Samael in particular and he is beautiful. In other words, a beautiful destroyer; this is probably a mask for Lord Shiva. A ‘seducer’ and ‘destroyer’ in the Yahwist concept leads only to ruin and suffering at the hands of God (his Cyclopes). However, if this is connected with Lord Shiva then the beautiful destroyer is leading him to a destruction that is REALLY regeneration. I also wonder if the 'green book' is not the heart chakra with the message 'find your holy book within your own heart.'
I hope that Gavis can find whatever way is best for Gavis, not one based upon fear and manipulation.