Ouija board entity, the end of me?

[Shrewmfairy]

A couple of years ago, I was pretty dumb and a little naive to the affect of the spiritual world on our own.
I was with a group of people who were using a ouija board, when I decided I would join the foolishness.
On about our 4th session that night, I was singled out by the entity who gave the intials A B.
She gave knowledge of her and my own gender, as well as my birth date.
Then she proceeded to tell that she would have me dead in 9 years.
It was as vague as that in regards to details. And I decided that I would end the session, burn the board and hold a match in the shot glass we used.
I could be paranoid, but I thought that in doing so it may reduce any risk of being affected by anything.
Coincidently 9 days later, I had an accident and crashed my motorbike into a tree. Got away with only a badly broken wrist and a couple of ribs.

So the reason I'm posting this is because every now and again, this little event crosses my mind and I wonder.
Will anything ever come of this spiritual death threat? Or am I paranoid? [rolleyes]

[Rin]

My first thought is that it's probably nothing, Ouiji boards are notoriously unreliable for assorted reasons. But even assuming you did contact a real, independent spirit, what guarantees that this spirit is actually able to harm you? Not all spirits are created equal, and why would one that has to power to kill at whim be sitting around answering Ouiji boards? And why would it choose to wait 9 years? Or to warn you at all? None of it makes any sense.

IMO, the best thing to do would be to take up daily banishing as part of your regular spiritual practice (although imo, everyone should be doing that anyway, it's incredibly beneficial), and otherwise not worry about it too much.

[Shrewmfairy]

I enjoy making sure space is filled with postive energies and entities, with rid of anything else. I do so on a weekly basis and after cleaning.

I do feel as though postive energy would over-power negative engery. But with your reassurance cleansing should become more effective with less fears and worries.
Thank you

[Azkhet]

I enjoy making sure space is filled with postive energies and entities, with rid of anything else. I do so on a weekly basis and after cleaning.

I do feel as though postive energy would over-power negative engery. But with your reassurance cleansing should become more effective with less fears and worries.
Thank you

I'm probably going to get plonked as a bitch, but...

There's no evidence whatsoever that positive energy is inherently stronger somehow that negative. There's no truth to "good uber alles" idea - evil does in fact pay.

If that's been your method of operation, you really really really need to start banishing.

[Shrewmfairy]

Sorry I should have elaberated on "rid of anything else". I'm constantly trying to keep the postive energy around me, but I don't just do half the job.
I know evil exsists, so yes I do banish negative energies. [happy2]

[Azkhet]

That's not what I said.

Regarding specifically that "good energy will overpower evil energy" there's no evidence that good energy is somehow intrinsically stronger than evil.

A banishing banishes ALL energy, good and evil. You don't banish one and keep the other. If you're trying to, well, you're doing it wrong.

[Lucius]

Regarding specifically that "good energy will overpower evil energy" there's no evidence that good energy is somehow intrinsically stronger than evil.

I agree. To be honest when you think about it, what makes positive energy positive and negative energy negative, I guess I'm gonna go one step further and say that this perception of good and bad energy is just subjective. One magician may see an energy as good and another might see the same energy as bad. Sure, different energies have different "feels" and I'm not denying that, that's just over kill. But what I'm saying is that how come everyone accepts the whole idea of good and bad energy if simple logic tells us that this is simply just a subjective view?

Regardless neither one is inherently more powerful than the other and they do both have their uses.

Anyway, if you want to ensure that this spirit does not harm you again then for your own piece of mind why not just make a servitor to keep it away and just get on with your life. That's what we chaotes do (sometimes) and it tends to work pretty well [thumbup]

[Azkhet]

Yup -- my model assumes that magic is a type of physics, so an energy waveform is an energy waveform, no matter how you graph it or quantify it. If you want to negate a waveform, you must somehow obliterate its signal, and a good way to do that is to beam at it a waveform that oscillates at an inverted frequency -- then they both null out to a baseline of zero. It doesn't matter what you call the energy -- good, bad, or Pop-Tarts.

If you prefer a more magical model, if everything is somehow balanced then good/positive energy cannot be intrinsically stronger somehow than bad/negative energy. It completely throws the concept of balance right out the window.

[Frater_NT]

I agree with the last few posts,there is no real such thing as positive and negative energy. The universe acts as if it were a well-oiled machine, constantly creating new stars and life and black holes swallow anything that gets too close. Destruction, chaos, life, growth; the only real definition of "positive" and "negative" and the ones you give these terms. This is also why it is so absurd to think you can somehow "banish negative energy." How would this be possible at all when what is considered "negative" is different for different people? Banishings, especially when done properly, banish ALL energy. What you call it at the end of the day, positive or negative, doesn't matter in the least.

Now, as for the original post. I don't think burning a ouija board was really called for. This assumes that somehow spirits can only manifest on this level though a magic piece of cardboard [wink2] Just a friendly reminder, spirits that are contacted through ouija boards seem rather...trollish. Take everything they say with a HUGE grain of salt. This is an important lesson, never trust what a spirit tells you. You have to remain in control! This also brings up the question of if the ouija board contacts actual spirits or part of the user's subconscious. From my own experience, I have had moments where I think it was a spirit, but more often than not I'm certain it was a subconscious thing. As Rin said, if you are/were so worried you should take up a daily banishing of some sort - and regardless of what's going on you should have a daily banishing anyways.

Fr. N.'. T.'.

[Lucius]

Now we wait for the one troll who'll come along and go on about good fighting evil and thinks they're harry potter [rofl]

Anyway, back tracking a bit I apologize in advance but also think of it like this, a spirit powerful enough to kill you probably has bigger spirity thingys to attend to than a mere human (no offence) so if it wanted to kill you as mentioned earlier, it would not give you warning and would have killed you already.

[yay]

[Azkhet]

Good fighting evil?

What about needing evil to fight a different kind of evil?

[Lucius]

Good fighting evil?

What about needing evil to fight a different kind of evil?

HA HA HA HA HA LOL. I love how this has gone from a help post to a debate about good and evil... and this [tongue]

OP well done, you've made an entertaining thread [thumbup]

Anyway,
Shrewmfairy- has your query been answered is there anything to be helped?

[Occultess]

Well, my two cents in this discussion is this:

What if the spirit goofed up it's wording a little? You said the spirit told you you were going to die in 9 years...and then 9 days later, you had an accident on your motorbike. Time moves differently where the spirits are, so their concept of what a day or a year is differs to ours and they are not always really good at making the conversions properly. The fact that you didn't actually die in the accident could possibly be from intervention (like Divine Intervention for instance) or perhaps another timeline was in effect when you had your accident than was in effect when the spirit told you about your death.

[Frater_NT]

....or perhaps the spirit was just fucking with her.

[Lucius]

Given the provided information I do conform to Occultesses theory. But, the only piece that doesn't fit is this, if the spirit were really intent on killing the OP, then why didn't it try again after it failed the first time? Also, why was it specifically 9 days?

My alternate theory is this is a small spirit which wasn't powerful enough to kill you and this anxiety and fear you're now feeling (OP), yeah, it was probably feeding of that. Think about, by saying 9 days it is giving you 9 days to panic and be afraid.

Create the situation, create the desired emotion, eat.

[Occultess]

Given the provided information I do conform to Occultesses theory. But, the only piece that doesn't fit is this, if the spirit were really intent on killing the OP, then why didn't it try again after it failed the first time? Also, why was it specifically 9 days?

My alternate theory is this is a small spirit which wasn't powerful enough to kill you and this anxiety and fear you're now feeling (OP), yeah, it was probably feeding of that. Think about, by saying 9 days it is giving you 9 days to panic and be afraid.

Create the situation, create the desired emotion, eat.

I don't know what the OP's experience was or anything, so I can't say for sure, but...I am wondering if the spirit was trying to kill him or if the spirit was trying to warn him. I think it is atleast possible that the spirit was giving a warning and the OP took it to be a threat, but it wasn't intended that way. But ofcourse I don't know what the message said that the spirit gave so, this is just a possible theory I have in my head right now.

[Lucius]

It would be nice if the OP would tell us how he's getting on

I don't know what the OP's experience was or anything, so I can't say for sure, but...I am wondering if the spirit was trying to kill him or if the spirit was trying to warn him. I think it is atleast possible that the spirit was giving a warning and the OP took it to be a threat, but it wasn't intended that way. But ofcourse I don't know what the message said that the spirit gave so, this is just a possible theory I have in my head right now.

Occultess, this is an equally valid theory. Unfortunately until more clarification is provided by the OP we have no way of knowing anything for certain. If the OP could tell us in more detail what happened?

Often the case is that details considered irrelevant by the person asking for help are omitted but often it is these details which are the most important.

[Shrewmfairy]

Thanks guys.
I agree with everything you have to say, though I don't think there's anything wrong with my spiritual ritiuals or beliefs.
An energy that is not a source I'm trying to connect with i.e. earth or higher-self, I would consider negative. Only because it's interferring or I haven't grounded myself properly and I don't connect with mt intended source. So yes, this may not be a so called "negative" energy, just an energy, but it's something I don't need in my space at that time.
But I have a feeling it wouldn't matter what I had to say, would there be consideration of what works for others over personal views of idealism?

Thanks for all your help [happy2]

[Lucius]

You're very welcome

Yeah in conclusion just do a banishing ritual then re-summon the energy that you want.

Good luck [thumbup]