FERMI PARADOX (aliens don't exist)

[cyberdemon]

Well, I couldn't come up with a more provocative title than that, but anyway, here you go.

http://imgur.com/gallery/WsN3M The article isn't perfectly grammar-friendly, but it gets the point across.

Personally, I do believe that we're the only species in existence (along with demons/higher beings, but they're from outside the universe as compared to from-another-planet). Why? Divine Calculation.

Thoughts and opinions appreciated!

[Haelos]

I've only just started it, but I'll start laying down my thoughts.

I don't know if the writer of this article ever looked at the night sky before, especially somewhere in the country areas, but I can assure you there are more than *roughly* 2,500 stars in our skies. I've seen what a million little dots look like on a piece of paper. Our sky has hundreds of billions of stars that we can see.
Have you ever seen the sky on acid? Every single star looks like a rainbow explosion of gases, and you can perceive them at different depths.
Sure, you can chalk that up to being drug-induced visual hallucination, but after about 60 times under Lucy's influence, and gaining full mastery over the visuals, that is the one thing that still appears no matter what. We normally see stars as white light, but with Lucy by your side, the sky is filled with rainbow diamonds.

Second part, SETI has had a couple interesting finds, but they're also searching one part of the universe at a time. Not the entire universe all day every day. I'm calling bullshit on this article by the third paragraph, I'm sorry.

I'm a little ways down now, and I've just gotta wonder, has this dude never taken the consideration that our governments hide this information from us? Obviously we're not told of all the real, usable information that comes through our doors, and OP seems to be totally overlooking that one, HUGE fact.

A note about this question of when we surpassed the "Great Filter," it must have been that first time a monkey ingested manna.
I find the third theory, We're Fucked, to be the most logical. And this is why we need to push human evolution.

And, wow. At the end, the only thing he got right. Every single one of those "Possibilities."

Nonetheless, it was an interesting read. Here are my thoughts. Thanks for sharing this article. I wrote this as I went with 0 revision.

[cyberdemon]

Teehee. I've watched supernovae exploding on acid, and one time God even twirled the earth a little making the moon drop and re-rise..

Fermi is actually a legitimate hypothesis, put down by real physicists as actual questions that need answers.

As for governments hiding information, only the Roswell incidents seem remotely legitimate. Even the so-called Black Knight Satellite seems hoaxy. Still, I feel that some conspiracy theories exist only to feed conspiracy theorists.

[Candy Ray]

I have come across our friends the Goetic demons posing as aliens: making certain people believe that they come from another physical planet, have a spacecraft, are saviours of mankind, and the like. My own belief is that some of them are worshipped as gods on other physical planets, but they still don't have a physical body themselves, it's their alien followers who have physical bodies.

It''s true that we haven't got any evidence of aliens, as the article says, but maybe we only think that our instruments are good enough to pick up the evidence and really they're not good enough. It seems wasteful to have vast areas of the universe empty without any life in them to use them. To go back to the Goetic demons, a few years ago one of them was showing an interest in one of the moons of Jupiter. Later it turned out that each one of the moons of Jupiter has an environment which corresponds with one of the four elements.It can't be a coincidence, it must mean they have been positioned deliberately to exert an astrological influence. If that is deliberate the positioning of life forms is deliberate too and there surely must be some in all those vast spaces. I know I'm not being very so-called 'scientific' here but there you are.

[Haelos]

That's the thing though, when you look a little bit deeper into things, there actually IS a lot of evidence of life from other planets, and that many of these beings were the ones worshiped as Gods here on Earth.

[Urscumug]

but I can assure you there are more than *roughly* 2,500 stars in our skies. I've seen what a million little dots look like on a piece of paper. Our sky has hundreds of billions of stars that we can see.

Hundreds of billions? You surely have very very good eyes to be able to see nearly all stars of our galaxy. The author of the article wrote that we can see roughly 2500 stars, this assumption is shared by many articles like this one.

My opinion on the Fermi paradox is that no civilisation reaching techno-industrial level lives long enough and the probability that two civilisations with the same level (i.e. able to communicate) coexist in the same spatial region and at the same period is not much greater than zero.

[ultimafool]

The article completely ignores the millions of people across the entire planet who have claimed to have made contact with supposed alien beings. Along with their personal testimonies, there exists photographic and video evidence, forensic evidence such as footprints, indentations from landing gear, burned or scorched earth and plants, radiation burns on people, radiation sickness, symptoms of UV/microwave exposure, scoop marks, cuts, bruises and implants.

The scientific community's approach to the subject is laughable. SETI is a joke akin to expecting an e-mail to arrive through a cup attached to a string. Academia wants contact on its own terms. They refuse to believe in personal witness accounts and expects non-human intelligences to conform to their preconceived notions of how aliens should behave. Their funding for research and eligibility for tenureship is at risk if they venture outside of the accepted norms of their peers, never mind the subject of governmental cover-up.

Now allow me to indulge in a bit of paradox...

I don't believe that most of these encounters are with completely physical beings from another planet traveling in solid ships. As Candy Ray mentioned, there is a definite cross-over into the occult that is largely ignored, even by most true-believers. The early days of contactees in the 1950s were heavily influenced by the occult and the even more spooky realms of military intelligence.

I believe, nay, KNOW - but I identify myself with the Jacques Vallee/John Keel camp of UFOlogy. These beings are "of the stars", but not in the way they claim to be.

[Vovi]

Luckily for me I don't need to rely on the arrogant false beliefs of others nor the analysis of number crunching physicists in order to think one way or another about this matter of great argument. Seeing certain things up close and physical back in 1982 has freed me from the need to bother with any ponderance on the whole matter. I don't speak of it much if at all because it's an experience that one has to witness firsthand in order to know for his or her self. So for me personally I know for a fact that they exist and I have no need to try to sway others to believe what I could tell them since they were not there. So as far as aliens go, and as far as the occult also goes, I can only let others believe what they choose to based on their own experiences. So based on the aforementioned I disagree with the fermi paradox and know that they are wrong in their calculations. Unfortunately I know this only unto myself and will never bother trying to change another's mind about it.

[Rin]

I think it's arrogant in the extreme to think that we, as a civilization which hasn't even managed a manned expedition to another planet, are in any position to be making definitive statements one way or the other about whether there is or isn't life out there amongst the billions of stars which exist in the universe. We're just in no position to say one way or the other at this stage.

[Horny Goat]

Disbelieving in various different race of aliens visiting the earth in the present day is like disbelieving in Bigfoot. When there is simply so much evidence FOR then to believe AGAINST is to be in denial of the obvious. It (evidence) is enormous. Look elsewhere on Internet.

The Fermi paradox is put forwards only because these scientists can't bring themselves to admit the evidence for aliens being here.