Numerology and the law of k*x

[tripkos]

I'm a little perplexed out here. I recently discovered a method based on numerology to acquire intel. I never thought it would really work, but i managed to predict accurately a closing price of a company on the NYSE. Other personal and non-personal information regarding some people i know i also acquired, but i'm not able to verify most of it. Among these, i succesfully predicted that a friend would choose a leopard given three animals to choose from. They were a horse, a lion and a leopard. This last one may be a coincidence, but i used the same method to predict the closing price. Actually, i tried to predict two closing prices, but the second one was not exactly right, but, i noticed it was some value of the S&P-500, and it also was backwards. I used a numerological method, i think.

I was guided by some intelligences unknown to me, and they said that this method can also be used to influence people and events, but that this is something for a later stage. But i'm confused about something, because mostly i improvise in my magickal actions, and therefore i don't really know what i'm doing. I know i caused "this" or "that" but as i said, i don't know how i do it.

With what i just said regarding that method, i now feel i can have more control, and it also feels as if like previously i knew shit, compared to what i now know, while i thought i understood it back then.

I wanted to ask if anyone can tell me more about "the law of k*x" where x is any number and k is a constant. The discordians use their law of fives, but it can be any number eventually.

This is a post of desperation as i really need to know now as soon as possible. I don't want to wait for "the guides".

Thank you.

[fraterai]

The only thing I would say about any divination technique is to stay consistent. As long as you stay consistent and know that you are getting the right results, you can blame any misfires on "miscommunication", eventually it will be clear.

y=k*x is just Hookes law? There is a proportional, linear relationship with some scalar, practically the most basic relationship we can muster. Esoterically? I don't know how to read math equations like that

Sounds cool and I hope you get good results. You have to keep a careful record, and stay consistent with the meanings and methods. You can always add stuff, meanings, etc., but don't change them, unless constant results prove otherwise

[tripkos]

I don't know much about physics or math, but it apparently is Hooke's law, i just looked up the info. Keeping records, yeah i didn't do that before 11 days ago. Back then, i thought there was too much to record, too much synchronicities i experienced, and this held me back. I became more practical these last days, and i don't know why i waited so long.

Earlier this day, i tried to acquire information on a coffee-shop (who the owners are and how it got started) and after i got some info using the method, i mailed people from there to see if the information will be confirmed in one way or another. Thing is, the confirmation has to be concrete enough, but some room for symmetry would not be a problem. But if the real information is somehow metaphorical, then it woudln't make sense, as i would just "fit" the information, some kind of confirmation bias.

As for the k*x, if the number i will surf upon is say, 22, then 11, 44, 66, 88 and so on will carry related information. Say that i want some information on someone, i will make an anagram of his/her name, and then add-up the numbers of his/her date of birth, and also using the digits of the current hour or time, adding these up. Then resulting in say
"role users 22-6 (the anagram, the partial sum of the digits of the date of birth, and the sum of the digits of the current hour). Then (on the web) if for example the number 22 carries the words "def leppard" and another 44 carries "kitchen appliances (maybe with an image of a toaster)" and then when i jump up to say 66, which is 3*22 and in the field where this number is i choose for example a "6th line" (because of the 6) and this location carries "hotel bookings in Murano, Italy" and if i then try to link up this information, there would be a lot of possibilities viewed symbolically or metaphorically. Rationally, it would be probing a haystack for a needle. But if the info is taken literally, then this person would be related in some way with a rock band, a kitchen appliance and Italy. Maybe this person was listening to this band while using something in the kitchen, of an Italian brand perhaps. It would depend on other carried information.

I need to know how to link this information in a correct way (for every session the same method and rules, if this is even possible in occult science by the way).

[fraterai]

I have taken a lot of classes on math and many physics and engineering courses, and I don't know any more about the "context" you are seeking for Hooke's law, but like it said it is almost the most basic formula, right? We have scalar, e.g. y = 0, linear, y=ax, quadratic, (these are just power series), and then weird ones like exponentials and more. So you have, with kx, a term of the power series. Here are more terms to search and possibly add to your system in some way, without getting so advanced that you would need a class. If you really want to learn math in a straight forward way of dealing with numbers I highly, highly suggest working through each "programme" of Engineering Mathematics by Stroud (there is a "basic" and "advanced" version, the advanced references the basic so they work together.)

Since you are trying to divine very practical things, like actual numbers or true information, it is good that you are coming up with your own method. Tarot for instance is used all the time to predict things, but personally i think it works best in a strictly spiritual, initiation-driven, or alchemical setting. Anyways my point is i think you have a good starting point, but since you want extremely specific information, you're going to have to designate these specifics to your outcomes. Now, you can come up with some way to differentiate when you are asking a "spiritual" question or a "mundane" question, or 4 outcomes for the four elements, etc. The way my personal favorite diviner took care of this problem was to make multiple decks of cards (AO Spare used hand-drawn, numbered cards for his own divinations). So if someone wanted a horse race prediciton, he'd pull out the horse race deck and get very specific answers. The way he explains that he was successful in this was by setting specific meanings to each symbol in each case, and sticking to them, working with them and absorbing them (memorizing, or whatever) into his subconscious. So, maybe you can have 3 meanings for each number, a metal, astral, and physical meaning, or you can have 12 meanings each, one for each astrological house,

You see the possibilities are endless, BUT you need to be consistent. Spare said it takes (a complete beginner) 6 months to make a decent deck (setting meanings, writing all of these on the cards, playing with the meanings until you can come up with a symbol to represent the meanings) and another 6 months to master diving with it and all its subtle meanings.

I probably won't take you this long but my point is you should not feel bad if it does.

[fraterai]

I will add that Hooke's law is deeply connected with electrons (their connection to proton is "springy"), maybe this helps. And I of course meant "divining" not diving (phone. )

[tripkos]

You seem quite knowledgable. I'm impressed actually. I already have assigned meanings to the letters of the Latin alphabet, classified them according to topological principles, and the ten number symbols some time ago, in the same way, discovering an interesting trigonometric property during my kundalini experience, of which the pressure on my brain almost killed me by the way [crazy] , but it still doesn't make sense to me today, after nine years. Then i used more advanced abstract thinking skills to "see" a second type of definition for each of the symbols. But i didn't attach three meanings, corresponding to the physical, astral and mental. Well, maybe this latter assignment is easily accomplished, as i just need to identify the elemental nature of the "seen" definitions, or better, the symbols themselves. Thus, i defined these two sets of symbols in non-specific terms, which i assume is the way to go.

But then, according to you, how the hell can one "divine" things using contemporary mathematics? It takes hours, or even days using computers to predict the outcomes of say a few closing prices accurately for no single week, as far as i know. How then can one even begin to predict the action, feelings, thoughts and location of some individual, when not even the time variable is considered !? This is fifth-dimensional math of which the calculations have to be done mentally, and then the deductions also have to be extremely elegant, on top. But "it makes a sense" yes, that's true.

On the other hand, i'm fairly optimistic, when considering the triangle of synchronicity, intuition and environment, banning lower reason for the most part, or the concrete mind, as theosophy calls it. OK, say i want to predict the outcome of a horse race, your example. The solution then has to be traced in the physical reality according to some vector space (where some kind of vectors are linearly dependent and others not, so then go this or that way until the next solution presents itself on some folder on a wall in the city or in the racing stadium, or something like this, and then continuing with the next vector). How can you reach (literally) such an outcome using linear algebra without historical statistics? Not even chaos theory is able to predict the winner using sport statistics. Or, maybe i'll take the lunatic way and conclude that it is in fact possible, but people who can do math don't do it because they fear the intelligence agencies, because of 'the secret". I don't think so. It's not possible, in many ways. But i'm sure there are also a lot of exceptions to this concept, if you just look at alternative energy researchers, for one, so maybe there is some truth in this "crazy" idea.

So then, according to you, how do i do it, assuming i have the mathematical knowledge firmly ingrained? Or is it "a secret" in one of two senses, that you'd have to get personal and reveal your definitions? Feel free of course, or go off course into puzzles, or whatever...enlighten me if you want. [grin]

PS: Diving, yes of course, i'm not my ex-girlfriend you know. I threw that fucking CD-r labeled "divers" (handwritten like a 6 year-old brat) with trading e-books of her out of the window (literally) and cursing when i discovered it after our break in some box in the attic a few months later. [wink]

[fraterai]

I'm am happy to have been some help and your last post gives me a bit more to work with as far as where you are at in this method. I can offer a bit more help on this one I think

But then, according to you, how the hell can one "divine" things using contemporary mathematics?

Wait a second...I thought you were teaching US a way to divine using math??
I don't know of any concrete method of doing this, but i'm certain I can come up with one, especially with the groundwork you provided. It would need some random element (more on that in a second)

Now, the big paragraph in your post is the main one I want to address. In the first sentence you talk about "banning lower reason", and this is pretty key to divination. You're going to have to keep remembering this since your method is very much based on something we mainly use for logic and reason.

How can you reach (literally) such an outcome using linear algebra without historical statistics?

As far as I can guess, you can't. (Equations are true because they always give me consistent answers). You can calculate the statistics on every divination system and see how they compare this way. I did this when I was trying to learn the I-Ching because there are literally so many different methods out there on how to arrive at the hexagram. Most of the common ones came out to a certain probability per line that was markedly different from the "original, classical" way of doing this, so I went with a method that matched that probability. I was assuming you were using some sort of outside element, for instance, when you saw a pattern or something at a certain time, here are two inputs you can use to get an output that is semi random or at least depends on time and place (the place the sequence of numbers popped up, etc).

So in order to complete this divination system, you need to make sure you have a system:

1) Opening - some way to clear your mind or something, if you are "Watching tv and zoning out until a synchronicity occurs" this sounds fine to me. Tarot example is we sit calmly, maybe say a prayer, and shuffle.
2) Execute the divination - take the inputs (yours are the random time/number, mine is the number of shuffles) and of course the question
3) "Read" the results - this is the part that is going to take the longest and directly depends on the outcomes you assigned, your familiarity with the system, and a knack for connecting with your intuition which you will begin to feel as time goes on. Sometimes I pull three cards and i laugh because it makes so much sense so quickly. Others I have to scratch my head and really think it out, but in the very least it becomes clear once the event has happened.

I really hope you keep at this as I think it will pay off if you solidify it and such. With my mathematical additions in my last post I didn't want to give you the idea that you can reduce this down to just solving a system of equations or something. you still need to model your system off of all of the other divination systems, or at least look and see what elements they all have. One of them is a random, statistical element, which goes right back to quantum mechanics and is probably the reason divinations work. (Either spirits know QM or the collective unconscious does!)

[fraterai]

It takes hours, or even days using computers to predict the outcomes of say a few closing prices accurately for no single week, as far as i know. How then can one even begin to predict the action, feelings, thoughts and location of some individual, when not even the time variable is considered !?

Don't mix up mundane methods and magical methods. Use them both, augment one with the other, but you can not approach your divination system exactly like a computer (in the way you describe here). You can so in the sense that it is a a "spiritual" or psychic machine that works on some theory of divination (of which you have to pick one or come up with one for your self, whether its spirits, collective unconscious, your own subconscious doing all the work, etc.)

[tripkos]

Don't mix up mundane methods and magical methods. Use them both, augment one with the other, but you can not approach your divination system exactly like a computer (in the way you describe here). You can so in the sense that it is a a "spiritual" or psychic machine that works on some theory of divination (of which you have to pick one or come up with one for your self, whether its spirits, collective unconscious, your own subconscious doing all the work, etc.)

Ok. It was merely a comparison loaded with simple criticism directed against mechanical thinking and so on... . And there you have it: A "theory" of divination. I don't think there are any theories for divination, if you define theory as a set of rules that leads to consistency and completeness in the context of divination. There are definitions yes, but not all theorems can be proved in the way we want and need, and subsequently applied. In the world of divination (or even science for that matter), the theorems (as they are usually called) or rules of inference are in fact not theorems at all, but conjectures, or hypotheses, waiting to be proved over and over in a different way, they have no value for a sage, because of lack of holistic principles. Thus, if a proof has been constructed, then normally it becomes a theorem. But one may find that the proof is not applicable, and call it a theorem or theory (jungian, Shamanic, Hermetic, Alchemical,..) for the sake of who knows what, to re-iterate. One has to choose something in the end, and/thus i'm talking about one system, being all systems at once.

There are on the other hand basic principles of complexity theory, such as the idea of the black box. One has some machine, conceptual or material, one inputs some values, and measures the output. Then the observer has to look for patterns by comparing the output with the input. Most of the time, these data sets don't make much sense in the context of divination, while at the same time the machines are perceived as being fairly simple, making them extremely complex once they pass the initial stages in their behaviour. If the concept of emergence is not brought in, one remains in the confounds of a system level. Here, the emergent phenomenon is synchronicity. As an example, last week i was wandering in the foundation of the universe. At one point, i was stuck with the word "view" i derived as i could not relate it the whole. My intuition dictated "lexx" a couple of times. While i was in this astral realm, there was music streaming at the same time. At the intermezzo, immediately after i doubted my intuition, the robotic voice of the woman repeated "lexx", "lexx" "lexx"... And then i knew that "lexx" was the missing piece. Now, the black box here, was familiar with "viewlexx" and someone on the radio would eventually use the term, but the "view" I was trying to comprehend, lied in another completely different context, and only "lexx" was iterated one second after i doubted my intuition, "viewlexx" was not used, only "lexx". The chances for this to happen are small, and they even compound the anomaly as more emergent (synchronicities) phenomena pop up, like the idea that i was trying to comprehend a "view", which is trying to comprehend the nature of a view (perspective) at the same time. It's a dead end. Meta, Meta, Meta and so on 'till one becomes dizzy.

Good "luck" if you want to formalize emergence, you'll need it.