The desire for something real

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The desire for something real

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Hello!
I'm going to tell you a little story of my experience with something that may sounds crazy.

It began when I started looking for something to believe in. I was once a christian but came to realization later on that the religion wasn't making much sense and that worshiping God was just begging for forgiveness or demanding your desires to come true through prayers.
After quitting Christianity I began to look for something else which happened to be Paganism and Wicca. However, these religions were the same a Christianity, just with different deities and rituals, always relying on a higher power.

I then found interested in Taoism, and later Internal Alchemy.

Through Internal Alchemy, I started to think that it was like those Xianxia but with less CGI and with more science behind it. Too my disappointment, however, it was just basic exercises and psychological therapy.

But something was bothering me about it.

It was the details of meridians and the systematical pointers that kept nagging me. While meditating, I always sat cross-legged on the floor on a mat till my back started to hurt, so I tried to lay down on my back when that happened. I sat up and I laid down, over and over again till I got bored and that is where it hit me!
A buzzing feeling, coming from my third eye point and the sphenoid bones! At first I thought it was because of breathing in too much oxygen and sitting up to fast or something similar, however, what if it wasn't.
Trying to do it without going up and down was really hard, since I had no clue of what I was doing, so I gave up.

Until.

One morning, while I was half asleep, laying in bed, I felt a hand on the back of my head. By waking up a bit more I realized that it was my own hand and began to scratch the back of my head while laying comfortable in a fetal position (I don't sleep on my back since it makes me snore [blush] ).
Sounds normal, until I woke fully up and realized that both my arms was under the blanket! I could still feel it as the feeling of scratching my head started fading.
Later that day, I thought about what could have allowed my brain to trick me and my senses like that.

It was a sense. A "sense of feeling (something)".

If I could use that "sense of feeling" to concentrate on the third eye point and the sphenoid bones while meditating what would happen? So I did that and to my surprise that buzzy feeling started to generate on those points. It felt like static electricity under my skin. Energy.
Could the "sense of feeling" be the real "Wu wei"? By doing something without doing anything, to move without movements?

I tried to concentrate on different places on the face and found that some spot was easier to focus on than others. It took me 3 months of practise to be able to concentrate from one point to another with ease, and that is where something changed. The points started to form connections. It felt like how constellations have line connections from star to star.

What freaks me out is that these points and connections are following the chart of meridians.

I then spent 3 more months to connect every point in to front and back of my head and neck, and now I'm trying to form my first cinnabar field, the Shen cinnabar field.

I hope I have finally found something real and not something that require me to believe in something or worship a deity..

-Sleepy Bluejay

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3rd eye cultivation and working with upper spheres is of value.....but it's critical to approach said region with a steady hand. Systems are useful because they keep you in guard rails...while blasting you off to higher states of awareness.

Om Namah Shivaya.....its a mantra that is "stable" and has 3rd eye tech encoded. You may or may not find some resonance.....done daily it has many benefits.

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WildWolf wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:41 am 3rd eye cultivation and working with upper spheres is of value.....but it's critical to approach said region with a steady hand. Systems are useful because they keep you in guard rails...while blasting you off to higher states of awareness.

Om Namah Shivaya.....its a mantra that is "stable" and has 3rd eye tech encoded. You may or may not find some resonance.....done daily it has many benefits.
The systems that you are most likely talking about, is just the therapy or the guidance of basic exercises like Qigong and Tai Chi. To me, that is not spiritual, that is psychology, therapy and physical workout.
What I seek is the real spirituality, the soul, the paranormal.

"Om Namah Shivaya" is a chant to honor the power of lord Shiva, which is a Hindu God. I don't worship any God nor will I ever bow my head to one unless their light hurt my eyes (don't stare at the sun, people).

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Sleepy-Bluejay wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:41 pm....The points started to form connections. It felt like how constellations have line connections from star to star.

What freaks me out is that these points and connections are following the chart of meridians.
It is good that you are starting to experience energy fields. The meridian system does indeed operate in humans and in galaxies - giving a hint as to the functional significance of the enlightened human
Sleepy-Bluejay wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:41 pm.......now I'm trying to form my first cinnabar field, the Shen cinnabar field.
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The Daoist dantian teaching is simplified as can be seen by comparison with the complexity of the meridian system

The Western system is somewhat less simplified and presents as 7 major chakras/dantians, 49 secondary and 343 tertiary - thereby paralleling the extent of the meridian system.

There are further major chakras above the head and below the base of the spine but these are hard to work with until higher stages of enlightenment

All chakras are functional at least on elemental levels. Trauma, interference and toxicity may result in the higher intelligences abandoning some chakras so that social interactions become disturbed. Severe autism often has that mechanism

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Amor wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:08 am The Daoist dantian teaching is simplified as can be seen by comparison with the complexity of the meridian system

The Western system is somewhat less simplified and presents as 7 major chakras/dantians, 49 secondary and 343 tertiary - thereby paralleling the extent of the meridian system.

There are further major chakras above the head and below the base of the spine but these are hard to work with until higher stages of enlightenment

All chakras are functional at least on elemental levels. Trauma, interference and toxicity may result in the higher intelligences abandoning some chakras so that social interactions become disturbed. Severe autism often has that mechanism
What does the chakras do? What are their uses?

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Sleepy-Bluejay wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:22 am
WildWolf wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:41 am 3rd eye cultivation and working with upper spheres is of value.....but it's critical to approach said region with a steady hand. Systems are useful because they keep you in guard rails...while blasting you off to higher states of awareness.

Om Namah Shivaya.....its a mantra that is "stable" and has 3rd eye tech encoded. You may or may not find some resonance.....done daily it has many benefits.
"Om Namah Shivaya" is a chant to honor the power of lord Shiva, which is a Hindu God. I don't worship any God nor will I ever bow my head to one unless their light hurt my eyes (don't stare at the sun, people).
Yeah, I don't worship gods either.....Its all about how you approach and navigate relationships. If a deity comes to you with high demands....likely good to walk away.

At the same time, its helpful to consult with Beings who have exceptional expertise. Being able to draw on the Knowledge and Skill of Gods, definitely has it uses.

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WildWolf wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:01 pm Yeah, I don't worship gods either.....Its all about how you approach and navigate relationships. If a deity comes to you with high demands....likely good to walk away.

At the same time, its helpful to consult with Beings who have exceptional expertise. Being able to draw on the Knowledge and Skill of Gods, definitely has it uses.
Yeah, unless they are tricksters or demonic, then their "knowledge" can't be trusted! >:D

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Sleepy-Bluejay wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am What does the chakras do? What are their uses?
The chakra is another name for dantian - but there are many more chakras specified

The chakra is an energy vortex that is the body of an elemental.

There is a higher being (deva) that manages the external functions of the chakra - e.g. walking upright, adding up numbers

Chakras can also connect with higher spiritual entities

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Amor wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:07 am The chakra is another name for dantian - but there are many more chakras specified

The chakra is an energy vortex that is the body of an elemental.

There is a higher being (deva) that manages the external functions of the chakra - e.g. walking upright, adding up numbers

Chakras can also connect with higher spiritual entities
Interesting.
But I prefer the idea of the three treasures because it is easier to understand the structure. Chakras are too advance and mystical for me.

To me, Jing is vitality, Qi is Longevity, and Shen is Spiritual Energy. Using Spiritual Energy as a tool to form the Spiritual body and the alchemy idea of one become two, two becomes three, to make the energies slightly different in nature.

Perhaps, once the three treasures are formed and refined enough, merging the three cinnabar fields into one will make a celestial fetus of some sort, which is born with the seven chakras.
Maybe it is all connected somehow, somewhere..

or not, I'm just rashly guessing now. [crazy]

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Sleepy-Bluejay wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:22 am...
What I seek is the real spirituality, the soul, the paranormal.
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Sleepy-Bluejay wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:14 pm...
But I prefer the idea of the three treasures because it is easier to understand the structure. Chakras are too advance and mystical for me....
So real spirituality that is simple to understand with a physical brain

After decades of active inner work, I am not at all sure it is getting simpler.

There is a vast complex of inner plane species that operate (within) galaxies, but based on my sampling, most of them are effects rather than causes

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Amor wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:21 am So real spirituality that is simple to understand with a physical brain

After decades of active inner work, I am not at all sure it is getting simpler.

There is a vast complex of inner plane species that operate (within) galaxies, but based on my sampling, most of them are effects rather than causes
Don't get me wrong, when I say real spirituality I mean cultivating the soul and body in the sense of Xianxia/wuxia novels, not workout and self-therapy to overcome psychological trauma nor anything that require worship or belief. To me, it isn't spiritual if it require me to believe it is real or just a wellness practice/exercise with claims of it being spiritual. It needs to be something undeniable.

What I do in my spare time is experimenting with the ideas of internal alchemy and spiritual alchemy in hope of discovering the unknown and possible occult, that cannot be denied by science because of the results. Whether it is real or not, is an answer I will eventually come to terms with in the end of my research/spiritual journey.

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