Original post: zeroflye
That's good enough for me, LucianAccendus.
I'm glad to see someone else used my letters to numbers hunch.
And if so, then I am also right, the answer is NOT as
profound as some make it out to be.
Quite ingenius though.
Much Light.
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Original post: puppetmaster
The new aeon english qaballah implies to me that the true prophet of that divine coordinate will be english speaking and tends to show that horus is a god of western thought rather than eastern philosophy hence the keys of it being magick.
The new aeon english qaballah implies to me that the true prophet of that divine coordinate will be english speaking and tends to show that horus is a god of western thought rather than eastern philosophy hence the keys of it being magick.
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Original post: Skeptismo118
This would usually be there I point, laugh, toss cigar ashes at you and maybe afterwards offer you some whisky.
But not today.
From no known house my good man. All of this speculation and self-congratulation is for naught. There's more to magic than humping dead Englishmen's delusion and replacing them as your own. Let it go and get on with your life.
This would usually be there I point, laugh, toss cigar ashes at you and maybe afterwards offer you some whisky.
But not today.
From no known house my good man. All of this speculation and self-congratulation is for naught. There's more to magic than humping dead Englishmen's delusion and replacing them as your own. Let it go and get on with your life.
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Original post: pharaoh602
Could have been one very long typo too.
Could have been one very long typo too.
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Original post: Ceriel Nosforit
A qabalah for English? I didn't know there existed such a thing!
The Search function says it has popped up here on OF before... Worth studying indeed.
ED:
A scan of the original:
http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/images/ ... 1-2-20.gif
ED2:
And the other part of this puzzle:
http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/images/ ... 1-3-16.gif
It would also seem that many of the letters of the original gibberish can be interpreted as Greek letters, but the symbol interpreted as "G"in "a L G M O R" eludes me...
A qabalah for English? I didn't know there existed such a thing!
The Search function says it has popped up here on OF before... Worth studying indeed.
ED:
A scan of the original:
http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/images/ ... 1-2-20.gif
ED2:
And the other part of this puzzle:
http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/images/ ... 1-3-16.gif
It would also seem that many of the letters of the original gibberish can be interpreted as Greek letters, but the symbol interpreted as "G"in "a L G M O R" eludes me...
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Original post: jack hectic
Internet Porn? :eh:puppetmaster;267864 wrote:i have yet to finish my work but it will enlighten the masses and all men will stand in awe of its perfection.
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Original post: Khered
The Qabalistic test of II:76 that we are discussing has been "solved" by many individuals but none of them have accomplished anything interesting after supposedly cracking the code. Many of these solutions have been long and meaningless, some recall the individual's name or address, and some are almost pages of common Qabalistic knowledge. I would imagine that most would prefer attempting to crack II:76 instead of III:47 being that they can get whatever they want from it with any silly little personal system of English gematria. What's worse is the people who sound intelligent when approaching this subject and they end up creating a new "liber" to expound the code with some recent system of English gematria.
No, the solution will not reveal the identity of a new prophet because there will not be a new prophet. The solution will not reveal a new Enochian tablet, it will not prove anyone's system of EQ, and it has nothing to do with obscure formulas with weird sounds. The person who rightly solves the code is said to be the rightful heir of Therion. How many of us are actually WILLing to be the actual heir of Therion himself? Are you really wanting that, honestly?
The correct solution should be known to anyone (including the "heir") who pays attention to II:74-76 and II:21 in the Book. Notice that the sentence in II:75 states that the previous verse has to do with the code in II:76 by using the word "aye" meaning "yes." One who lives long and desires death so much is the King Among the Kings.. Yes! Just listen to this cipher and learn why!
There will be a method of gematria that shall reveal the solution which itself will be greater than any little attempts that others have made, it will be a very simple answer, and nobody will object to it. Those who do not work with the regular pattern (4 groups of numbers and letters) are not going to get the correct solution. I myself have tried it with Hebrew gematria (converting the English letters into Hebrew letters first) and it was done with the regular pattern. My solution was a very simple word with a small value and it recalled II:74-76 and II:21. I will not reveal the solution nor how exactly I got it... but worry not, I shall reveal why soon!
Anyone who reads the verses of the second chapter that I mentioned twice so far will know the solution or some word(s) that point to the solution. We can all know what the *snickers* "heir" will know. Heheh.
Either the code in II:76 is a test of intelligence to see who the "heir" is or it is a great weapon that so far has revealed to the community whom the worst are. It is a virtue of the Sphinx to keep Silent about your work and is not the Sphinx important in Thelema? Each of us is Qabalistically the universe experienced from a point of view... so how does one person become greater in status than other people (some who are mystically more experienced) by doing something much like seeing images in clouds? Would you want someone to rule over you just because they see something special in some random numbers and words? This is why I do not reveal my solution nor how I got it... it is nobody's business and it will not change anything. I have the solution and anyone can find it by paying attention to the verses that I mentioned earlier.
So anyway, the code in II:76 is much like the Tunis Comment. Both of them reveal who the worst are. As the Comment reveals who the Slaves are whom have no Will, the Code reveals who the "Heirs" *snickers* are whom cannot be heirs of Therion anyway because no human being can be like him according to the second chapter of Liber AL! Think not that you will have his title and office! You are nothing but the Logos of your mommy and the Prophet of the Lovely Boner!
Pax Vobiscum..
Love is the law, Love under will!
The Qabalistic test of II:76 that we are discussing has been "solved" by many individuals but none of them have accomplished anything interesting after supposedly cracking the code. Many of these solutions have been long and meaningless, some recall the individual's name or address, and some are almost pages of common Qabalistic knowledge. I would imagine that most would prefer attempting to crack II:76 instead of III:47 being that they can get whatever they want from it with any silly little personal system of English gematria. What's worse is the people who sound intelligent when approaching this subject and they end up creating a new "liber" to expound the code with some recent system of English gematria.
No, the solution will not reveal the identity of a new prophet because there will not be a new prophet. The solution will not reveal a new Enochian tablet, it will not prove anyone's system of EQ, and it has nothing to do with obscure formulas with weird sounds. The person who rightly solves the code is said to be the rightful heir of Therion. How many of us are actually WILLing to be the actual heir of Therion himself? Are you really wanting that, honestly?
The correct solution should be known to anyone (including the "heir") who pays attention to II:74-76 and II:21 in the Book. Notice that the sentence in II:75 states that the previous verse has to do with the code in II:76 by using the word "aye" meaning "yes." One who lives long and desires death so much is the King Among the Kings.. Yes! Just listen to this cipher and learn why!
There will be a method of gematria that shall reveal the solution which itself will be greater than any little attempts that others have made, it will be a very simple answer, and nobody will object to it. Those who do not work with the regular pattern (4 groups of numbers and letters) are not going to get the correct solution. I myself have tried it with Hebrew gematria (converting the English letters into Hebrew letters first) and it was done with the regular pattern. My solution was a very simple word with a small value and it recalled II:74-76 and II:21. I will not reveal the solution nor how exactly I got it... but worry not, I shall reveal why soon!
Anyone who reads the verses of the second chapter that I mentioned twice so far will know the solution or some word(s) that point to the solution. We can all know what the *snickers* "heir" will know. Heheh.
Either the code in II:76 is a test of intelligence to see who the "heir" is or it is a great weapon that so far has revealed to the community whom the worst are. It is a virtue of the Sphinx to keep Silent about your work and is not the Sphinx important in Thelema? Each of us is Qabalistically the universe experienced from a point of view... so how does one person become greater in status than other people (some who are mystically more experienced) by doing something much like seeing images in clouds? Would you want someone to rule over you just because they see something special in some random numbers and words? This is why I do not reveal my solution nor how I got it... it is nobody's business and it will not change anything. I have the solution and anyone can find it by paying attention to the verses that I mentioned earlier.
So anyway, the code in II:76 is much like the Tunis Comment. Both of them reveal who the worst are. As the Comment reveals who the Slaves are whom have no Will, the Code reveals who the "Heirs" *snickers* are whom cannot be heirs of Therion anyway because no human being can be like him according to the second chapter of Liber AL! Think not that you will have his title and office! You are nothing but the Logos of your mommy and the Prophet of the Lovely Boner!
Pax Vobiscum..
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Original post: RifRaf
Sorry about bumping such an old thread, but damn! It is way to funny to be hidden away in the archives. Plus, I think this could make for a dynamic discussion.
I may have skipped over it, but, I don't see one person who mentioned AL III:47.
"This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it."
Sorry about bumping such an old thread, but damn! It is way to funny to be hidden away in the archives. Plus, I think this could make for a dynamic discussion.
I may have skipped over it, but, I don't see one person who mentioned AL III:47.
"This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all. Then this line drawn is a key: then this circle squared in its failure is a key also. And Abrahadabra. It shall be his child & that strangely. Let him not seek after this; for thereby alone can he fall from it."
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Original post: AETERNITAS0
wow, I have nothing to say to that.
wow, I have nothing to say to that.
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Original post: IAO131
Damn you RifRaf!
[QUOTE=Skeptismo118;267672]Boring...
Been done before...
Usually leads to meaningless gibberish and megalomania of the banal kind...
Go learn to read Chinese. It will be more useful in the long run.[/QUOTE]
Sweet jesus - that is exactly what I was going to write.
This puzzle is, in a sense, a test to show how much youre able to be wrapped up in meaningless, utterly banal trivia. Im not saying that was its intent, but it certainly was its effect. Ive read probably over 20 "keys," all of which were convinced they had it. Theyre all inconsistent, stupid, and never 'solve' anything. Usually they end up making it equal 418 or something like that.
In reference to the one who comes after who will find the Key of it all... Crowley thought this was Frater Achad ("the one") who found the Key of it, being AL.
IAO131
Damn you RifRaf!
[QUOTE=Skeptismo118;267672]Boring...
Been done before...
Usually leads to meaningless gibberish and megalomania of the banal kind...
Go learn to read Chinese. It will be more useful in the long run.[/QUOTE]
Sweet jesus - that is exactly what I was going to write.
This puzzle is, in a sense, a test to show how much youre able to be wrapped up in meaningless, utterly banal trivia. Im not saying that was its intent, but it certainly was its effect. Ive read probably over 20 "keys," all of which were convinced they had it. Theyre all inconsistent, stupid, and never 'solve' anything. Usually they end up making it equal 418 or something like that.
In reference to the one who comes after who will find the Key of it all... Crowley thought this was Frater Achad ("the one") who found the Key of it, being AL.
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Original post: AstralMagickCraft
Didn't crowley disown frater achad later on?
Didn't crowley disown frater achad later on?
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Original post: AETERNITAS0
well, he kind of left Achad to the madness of the Abyss.
Didn't Crowley disown/burn/fuck over everyone he knew eventually?
well, he kind of left Achad to the madness of the Abyss.
Didn't Crowley disown/burn/fuck over everyone he knew eventually?
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Original post: RifRaf
Achad went on to join some off-shoot Roman Catholic cult bullshit. I think that The Brides Reception was the reason for Crowley disowning Achad. I might be wrong here, though.
Crowley thought Achad was his "magickal son" because Achad took the grade of 8=3 when he was a Neophyte. Achad took that grade on a certain day that, if Crowley would have conceived a child with one of his women, the baby would have been born around the same time Achad took "The Master" title.
Achad went on to join some off-shoot Roman Catholic cult bullshit. I think that The Brides Reception was the reason for Crowley disowning Achad. I might be wrong here, though.
Crowley thought Achad was his "magickal son" because Achad took the grade of 8=3 when he was a Neophyte. Achad took that grade on a certain day that, if Crowley would have conceived a child with one of his women, the baby would have been born around the same time Achad took "The Master" title.
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Original post: IAO131
[QUOTE=RifRaf;354972]Achad went on to join some off-shoot Roman Catholic cult bullshit. I think that The Brides Reception was the reason for Crowley disowning Achad. I might be wrong here, though.
Crowley thought Achad was his "magickal son" because Achad took the grade of 8=3 when he was a Neophyte. Achad took that grade on a certain day that, if Crowley would have conceived a child with one of his women, the baby would have been born around the same time Achad took "The Master" title.[/QUOTE]
That was part of it.
Why did you bump this thread?
IAO131
[QUOTE=RifRaf;354972]Achad went on to join some off-shoot Roman Catholic cult bullshit. I think that The Brides Reception was the reason for Crowley disowning Achad. I might be wrong here, though.
Crowley thought Achad was his "magickal son" because Achad took the grade of 8=3 when he was a Neophyte. Achad took that grade on a certain day that, if Crowley would have conceived a child with one of his women, the baby would have been born around the same time Achad took "The Master" title.[/QUOTE]
That was part of it.
Why did you bump this thread?
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Original post: stormgazer
With all of the discussion here, I was wonder if anyone had read/heard about Michael Aquino's solution that he offers in his commentary to Liber AL. I believe it can be found on xeper.org. Out of all of the solutions I've read, his does seem to be one of the most elegant, and it does fit wit the "from no expected house cometh that child " (ie: the one who would solve the riddle) criteria.
But then again, it could have just been Hadit messing with Crowley all along.
With all of the discussion here, I was wonder if anyone had read/heard about Michael Aquino's solution that he offers in his commentary to Liber AL. I believe it can be found on xeper.org. Out of all of the solutions I've read, his does seem to be one of the most elegant, and it does fit wit the "from no expected house cometh that child " (ie: the one who would solve the riddle) criteria.
But then again, it could have just been Hadit messing with Crowley all along.
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Original post: RifRaf
[QUOTE=IAO131;354986]
Why did you bump this thread?
IAO131[/QUOTE]
I was bored looking at search results for the thread topic, and I seen this one and read it and laughed a little.
Why do you wanna know?! I'll take you to the bank...... the Blood Bank.
[QUOTE=IAO131;354986]
Why did you bump this thread?
IAO131[/QUOTE]
I was bored looking at search results for the thread topic, and I seen this one and read it and laughed a little.
Why do you wanna know?! I'll take you to the bank...... the Blood Bank.
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Original post: Leviathan
WoW.
hey, I think that's my HGA talkin' too.
I'd say you were already well on your way considering your user name.
puppetmaster;267864 wrote:those whom choose this should assume the responsibility of a prophet not as it would be cool. my work into this is but a part of a complete finished masterpiece of the great work. ive already discovered the secrets handed down to me by higher powers that transcends any type of understanding that has yet to be found in any type of study. the ancient one who pronounced it to me is only to be referred to as Klêidouchos, his description is the light of the priests of the gods and the order of light by which they are compelled and to this matriarchal organisation of the leaders of this and every other aeon that has ever been upon the forefront of humanities understanding of gods is the ultimate law of the priests. the name of the formula was pronounced to me as the keys of infinity. i have yet to finish my work but it will enlighten the masses and all men will stand in awe of its perfection.
WoW.
hey, I think that's my HGA talkin' too.
I'd say you were already well on your way considering your user name.
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Original post: Leviathan
Hey guys!!
a few things to say...
- Crowley said the solution would be "simple, indisputable"
- sorry to hear about the NAEQ (New Aeon English Qabalah- to those unfamiliar with the acronym) but Sabazius, you know-the 10th Degree dude from the OTO- denounced it at one of his last speeches no more than a year ago in front of a body of OTO's Adepts.
- Haven't seen any "simple, indisputable" solutions yet....
But I do know this guy who says that he's already solved the code to the Book of the Law, and hell, it does look rather convincing.
He owns "LiberAlvelLegis.com" and says that he's going to post it there for the world to see when he's ready.
I asked him, "WHY NOT NOW ASSHOLE?" (but respectably, as we were in a heated debate)
He told me he asked Lon Milo Duquette if he would be conferred as a Ninth Degree for having solved to code (you know, as recognized by the OTO)
Duquette said, "HELL NO!!!" (it was an emphatic "hell no")
He then told me that he debated Duquette and the OTO in Portland about it for a little over a year now...
saying that The Book of The Law said that the one who solves it should be pronounced Crowley's "Heir" and "Magickal Successor"...
that would make him the Heir Apparant of the OTO Kingdom...
uh...
or so it is said in The Book of the Law.
too bad the OTO and Duquette do not recognize it as such.
And which is why he said he will not give it to ANYONE unless he should be-by virtue of it's revelation-appointed Heir (like the Book more than clearly states)
I asked him how he felt about this, and...
he's rather insistent on the idea that the OTO is not recognizing the words they swear by in their Book of Law and is outing them about it on the internet in MANY, MANY places all across the web (you know, some of the more popular occult sites that achieve the biggest audiences)
I tried to tell him to just "get over himself" and "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD" just f-ing post it already...
but he's so intent on mastering them, he's holding off-and he's playing psychological games with them, for other reason except "he can"
I don't know: we have been At Odds lately.
Hey guys!!
a few things to say...
- Crowley said the solution would be "simple, indisputable"
- sorry to hear about the NAEQ (New Aeon English Qabalah- to those unfamiliar with the acronym) but Sabazius, you know-the 10th Degree dude from the OTO- denounced it at one of his last speeches no more than a year ago in front of a body of OTO's Adepts.
- Haven't seen any "simple, indisputable" solutions yet....
But I do know this guy who says that he's already solved the code to the Book of the Law, and hell, it does look rather convincing.
He owns "LiberAlvelLegis.com" and says that he's going to post it there for the world to see when he's ready.
I asked him, "WHY NOT NOW ASSHOLE?" (but respectably, as we were in a heated debate)
He told me he asked Lon Milo Duquette if he would be conferred as a Ninth Degree for having solved to code (you know, as recognized by the OTO)
Duquette said, "HELL NO!!!" (it was an emphatic "hell no")
He then told me that he debated Duquette and the OTO in Portland about it for a little over a year now...
saying that The Book of The Law said that the one who solves it should be pronounced Crowley's "Heir" and "Magickal Successor"...
that would make him the Heir Apparant of the OTO Kingdom...
uh...
or so it is said in The Book of the Law.
too bad the OTO and Duquette do not recognize it as such.
And which is why he said he will not give it to ANYONE unless he should be-by virtue of it's revelation-appointed Heir (like the Book more than clearly states)
I asked him how he felt about this, and...
he's rather insistent on the idea that the OTO is not recognizing the words they swear by in their Book of Law and is outing them about it on the internet in MANY, MANY places all across the web (you know, some of the more popular occult sites that achieve the biggest audiences)
I tried to tell him to just "get over himself" and "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD" just f-ing post it already...
but he's so intent on mastering them, he's holding off-and he's playing psychological games with them, for other reason except "he can"
I don't know: we have been At Odds lately.
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Original post: AETERNITAS0
sounds like he may be a bit of a bullshitter.
sounds like he may be a bit of a bullshitter.
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Original post: Leviathan
and then he revoked that statement, remember?
Stopped communicating with Jones altogether, didn't he?
IAO131;354921 wrote:In reference to the one who comes after who will find the Key of it all... Crowley thought this was Frater Achad ("the one") who found the Key of it, being AL.
and then he revoked that statement, remember?
Stopped communicating with Jones altogether, didn't he?
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Original post: Leviathan
lol, I thought this was incredibly hilarious... when you consider the fact that I was also thinking to myself for the past year, "Hmm. The Gods were really THERE for him the duration of hs life, but...
near the end of it all...
Not so much."
Interesting how that works, huh?
AETERNITAS0;354950 wrote:...Didn't Crowley disown/burn/fuck over everyone he knew eventually?
lol, I thought this was incredibly hilarious... when you consider the fact that I was also thinking to myself for the past year, "Hmm. The Gods were really THERE for him the duration of hs life, but...
near the end of it all...
Not so much."
Interesting how that works, huh?
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Original post: AETERNITAS0
oh well, eh? either way he's out of the game now.
oh well, eh? either way he's out of the game now.
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Original post: Leviathan
HE WORKS FOR ME
just kidding! lol
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to add to what Rif Raf was saying...
Crowley wrote in "Liber Aleph" (the Book, specially written for his son")
he, Crowley, had intimated that being Crowley's magickal son would imply that he was In My Own Words "doing IT all along"...
this is to imply that he believed The Child would have had this Power conferred upon him by supernatural, if not-strange means.
This is teh foremost reason Crowley was convinced Stanfield was his "Magickal Son"
ah...
but he was also warned not to go looking for it, or else (as The Book of the Law said) he could only "fall" from it.
Didn't he now?
IAO131;354986 wrote:That was part of it.
Why did you bump this thread?
IAO131
HE WORKS FOR ME
just kidding! lol
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to add to what Rif Raf was saying...
Crowley wrote in "Liber Aleph" (the Book, specially written for his son")
he, Crowley, had intimated that being Crowley's magickal son would imply that he was In My Own Words "doing IT all along"...
this is to imply that he believed The Child would have had this Power conferred upon him by supernatural, if not-strange means.
This is teh foremost reason Crowley was convinced Stanfield was his "Magickal Son"
ah...
but he was also warned not to go looking for it, or else (as The Book of the Law said) he could only "fall" from it.
Didn't he now?
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Original post: Leviathan
Crowley is more alive now than he was when he was walking on this earth.
FACT
AETERNITAS0;355114 wrote:oh well, eh? either way he's out of the game now.
Crowley is more alive now than he was when he was walking on this earth.
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Original post: Leviathan
Whether he's a bullshitter or not...
I found it rather interesting how he found out (I guess, for us all) that the OTO will not recogize the one who solves the code as "Heir Apparant" or confer the Ninth Degree on him.
Which is curious, in and of itsel, how a complete bullshitter found all of this out.
And that's basically saying: the ones who call themselves OTO today do not recognize certain verses in The Book of The Law (their Holy Book)
Regardless of whether he solved the code or not: I FIND THAT RATHER HUGE
AETERNITAS0;355111 wrote:sounds like he may be a bit of a bullshitter.
Whether he's a bullshitter or not...
I found it rather interesting how he found out (I guess, for us all) that the OTO will not recogize the one who solves the code as "Heir Apparant" or confer the Ninth Degree on him.
Which is curious, in and of itsel, how a complete bullshitter found all of this out.
And that's basically saying: the ones who call themselves OTO today do not recognize certain verses in The Book of The Law (their Holy Book)
Regardless of whether he solved the code or not: I FIND THAT RATHER HUGE