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Original post: Quantum
I am a beginner. Recently as I have been going into my trances, and into the astral realm, I have consistently noted a black, shadowy yet humanoid figure, always just out of clear sight. All I can clearly make out are the piercing red eyes. Please, someone explain this to me...
I am a beginner. Recently as I have been going into my trances, and into the astral realm, I have consistently noted a black, shadowy yet humanoid figure, always just out of clear sight. All I can clearly make out are the piercing red eyes. Please, someone explain this to me...
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Everything is within the mind. What is within is without, and what is without is within. You must determine what this is by asking yourself how your feel about this.
Everything is within the mind. What is within is without, and what is without is within. You must determine what this is by asking yourself how your feel about this.
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Original post: MadHatR137
Sounds like a typical "Shadow Person" to me. If you search around in other posts, you may run into several conversations discussing similar experiences.... Some would say that they're merely watchers on the astral...rarely interfering with people or causing actual harm...your actions must have gotten their attention somehow...anyone else's opinion on this?
Sounds like a typical "Shadow Person" to me. If you search around in other posts, you may run into several conversations discussing similar experiences.... Some would say that they're merely watchers on the astral...rarely interfering with people or causing actual harm...your actions must have gotten their attention somehow...anyone else's opinion on this?
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Original post: Manifesto
[QUOTE=MadHatR137]Sounds like a typical "Shadow Person" to me. If you search around in other posts, you may run into several conversations discussing similar experiences.... Some would say that they're merely watchers on the astral...rarely interfering with people or causing actual harm...your actions must have gotten their attention somehow...anyone else's opinion on this?[/QUOTE]
this brings up a interesting question, what does it mean or signify when a shadow person crosses ova into earthly planes ?
[QUOTE=MadHatR137]Sounds like a typical "Shadow Person" to me. If you search around in other posts, you may run into several conversations discussing similar experiences.... Some would say that they're merely watchers on the astral...rarely interfering with people or causing actual harm...your actions must have gotten their attention somehow...anyone else's opinion on this?[/QUOTE]
this brings up a interesting question, what does it mean or signify when a shadow person crosses ova into earthly planes ?
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My actions? I have been trying to contact a being I have conversed with in my dreams recently. I am merely fourteen and am having trouble doing so. Would this attract their attention?
My actions? I have been trying to contact a being I have conversed with in my dreams recently. I am merely fourteen and am having trouble doing so. Would this attract their attention?
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Original post: Manifesto
[QUOTE=Quantum]My actions? I have been trying to contact a being I have conversed with in my dreams recently. I am merely fourteen and am having trouble doing so. Would this attract their attention?[/QUOTE]
I dont know much about this, but being as thou they said the shadow figures are "guardians" and "watchers". They may be making sure that being ur contacting doesnt harm you, your harm it. or gain knowledge that shouldnt be gained by u(or the human race) at this moment in time.
Im not sure, im just talking out my neck.
[QUOTE=Quantum]My actions? I have been trying to contact a being I have conversed with in my dreams recently. I am merely fourteen and am having trouble doing so. Would this attract their attention?[/QUOTE]
I dont know much about this, but being as thou they said the shadow figures are "guardians" and "watchers". They may be making sure that being ur contacting doesnt harm you, your harm it. or gain knowledge that shouldnt be gained by u(or the human race) at this moment in time.
Im not sure, im just talking out my neck.
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Have any of you had conversations with a being in Dreams? The being I have been speaking to seems to be friendly. Whenever I converse with him, I feel cold. The watchers are never present when I'm speaking to him, only when I'm searching for him.
Have any of you had conversations with a being in Dreams? The being I have been speaking to seems to be friendly. Whenever I converse with him, I feel cold. The watchers are never present when I'm speaking to him, only when I'm searching for him.
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Original post: MadHatR137
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Signify? I haven't a clue. But who's to say that they aren't all around us at all times, we simply only catch glimpses of them at moments. One theory on the "shadow person" phenomenon is that they move so fast we can't see them. Another is that their vibratory spectrum, or something like that, oscillates on a different frequency than our own, so we only get glimpses of them from time to time.
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Trying to contact beings...other beings appearing and watching you from a distance...its possible...if you are inexperienced your message could be spread out over a wider frequency than intended..kinda like if a radio signal was spread out over a range of frequencies....OR...they could be sent from whoever or whatever you're trying to contact.... I honestly can't say...I have only minimal experience in the astral, I only have a little bit of practical knowledge on the subject...and some good deductive reasoning skills...
I guess the question is, are they actually theatening to you, or does it all just seem a bit weird being watched...?
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Signify? I haven't a clue. But who's to say that they aren't all around us at all times, we simply only catch glimpses of them at moments. One theory on the "shadow person" phenomenon is that they move so fast we can't see them. Another is that their vibratory spectrum, or something like that, oscillates on a different frequency than our own, so we only get glimpses of them from time to time.
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Trying to contact beings...other beings appearing and watching you from a distance...its possible...if you are inexperienced your message could be spread out over a wider frequency than intended..kinda like if a radio signal was spread out over a range of frequencies....OR...they could be sent from whoever or whatever you're trying to contact.... I honestly can't say...I have only minimal experience in the astral, I only have a little bit of practical knowledge on the subject...and some good deductive reasoning skills...

I guess the question is, are they actually theatening to you, or does it all just seem a bit weird being watched...?
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Original post: Manifesto
[QUOTE=Quantum]Have any of you had conversations with a being in Dreams? The being I have been speaking to seems to be friendly. Whenever I converse with him, I feel cold. The watchers are never present when I'm speaking to him, only when I'm searching for him.[/QUOTE]
No i dont think I had conversation wit beings in my dreams, and I dont know maybe that being cold while talking is a sign u should research on the earth plane who this being is before you search for it on the astral.
Isnt cold usually the sign of darkness or bad vibrations
[QUOTE=Quantum]Have any of you had conversations with a being in Dreams? The being I have been speaking to seems to be friendly. Whenever I converse with him, I feel cold. The watchers are never present when I'm speaking to him, only when I'm searching for him.[/QUOTE]
No i dont think I had conversation wit beings in my dreams, and I dont know maybe that being cold while talking is a sign u should research on the earth plane who this being is before you search for it on the astral.
Isnt cold usually the sign of darkness or bad vibrations

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Original post: Quantum
Bad Vibrations? What do you mean?
Bad Vibrations? What do you mean?
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Original post: Manifesto
[QUOTE=Quantum]Bad Vibrations? What do you mean?[/QUOTE]
Well since everything has a vibration to it, could it be that the cold feeling u experience is due to the negitive vibrations of the being ?
I think positive things have warm feelings, and evil cold feelings. The reason i say this is because u usually hear of a cold breeze or feeling when ever demons or demonic entities are talked about.
[QUOTE=Quantum]Bad Vibrations? What do you mean?[/QUOTE]
Well since everything has a vibration to it, could it be that the cold feeling u experience is due to the negitive vibrations of the being ?
I think positive things have warm feelings, and evil cold feelings. The reason i say this is because u usually hear of a cold breeze or feeling when ever demons or demonic entities are talked about.
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Is it possible to destroy the demon in the astral realm? If not, could I convince the watchers spoken of earlier to help me?
Is it possible to destroy the demon in the astral realm? If not, could I convince the watchers spoken of earlier to help me?
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[QUOTE=Quantum]Is it possible to destroy the demon in the astral realm? If not, could I convince the watchers spoken of earlier to help me?[/QUOTE] If it is a "Watcher"-type, "if" being the key word, I would say, probably not...as far as I have ever read, they tend to not interfere with or assist people too often, hence the "Watcher" title....but I could be wrong....hell, they're probably not even called "Watchers" but thats merely the best way to express my readings....
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
...and a "Watcher" wouldn't really be classified as a "demon."
[QUOTE=Quantum]Is it possible to destroy the demon in the astral realm? If not, could I convince the watchers spoken of earlier to help me?[/QUOTE] If it is a "Watcher"-type, "if" being the key word, I would say, probably not...as far as I have ever read, they tend to not interfere with or assist people too often, hence the "Watcher" title....but I could be wrong....hell, they're probably not even called "Watchers" but thats merely the best way to express my readings....
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
...and a "Watcher" wouldn't really be classified as a "demon."
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[QUOTE=MadHatR137]If it is a "Watcher"-type, "if" being the key word, I would say, probably not...as far as I have ever read, they tend to not interfere with or assist people too often, hence the "Watcher" title....but I could be wrong....hell, they're probably not even called "Watchers" but thats merely the best way to express my readings....
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
...and a "Watcher" wouldn't really be classified as a "demon."[/QUOTE]For Clarities sake... NOT to be confused with the "watcher" from the Necronomicon...TOTALLY unrelated!
And yes, for a lack of a better word "watcher" most certainly fits
I'd also like to say this one more time so it can be stressed:
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
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[QUOTE=MadHatR137]If it is a "Watcher"-type, "if" being the key word, I would say, probably not...as far as I have ever read, they tend to not interfere with or assist people too often, hence the "Watcher" title....but I could be wrong....hell, they're probably not even called "Watchers" but thats merely the best way to express my readings....
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
...and a "Watcher" wouldn't really be classified as a "demon."[/QUOTE]For Clarities sake... NOT to be confused with the "watcher" from the Necronomicon...TOTALLY unrelated!
And yes, for a lack of a better word "watcher" most certainly fits

I'd also like to say this one more time so it can be stressed:
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
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Original post: Ognamus
There are numerous kinds of shadows. If you encounter any with glacier blue eyes with a fiery reflection upon them, please inform me.
There are numerous kinds of shadows. If you encounter any with glacier blue eyes with a fiery reflection upon them, please inform me.
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[QUOTE=Ognamus]There are numerous kinds of shadows. If you encounter any with glacier blue eyes with a fiery reflection upon them, please inform me.[/QUOTE]
Just wondering (to feed my curiosity) why are you searching for "shadows with glacier blue eyes with a fiery reflection upon them"
[QUOTE=Ognamus]There are numerous kinds of shadows. If you encounter any with glacier blue eyes with a fiery reflection upon them, please inform me.[/QUOTE]
Just wondering (to feed my curiosity) why are you searching for "shadows with glacier blue eyes with a fiery reflection upon them"

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If its a shadow person , its a #$%%ing nsty , If you do drugs , and that includes dope stop , cause it'll break down your protective aura. I dont like the idea of this thing watching you . Sounds like its just waiting for a opportunity to strike and if it attaches it self unto you , it'll never stop draining you , causing depression . And it wont just leave either , takes quite a bit of power to remove it once its attached .
If its a shadow person , its a #$%%ing nsty , If you do drugs , and that includes dope stop , cause it'll break down your protective aura. I dont like the idea of this thing watching you . Sounds like its just waiting for a opportunity to strike and if it attaches it self unto you , it'll never stop draining you , causing depression . And it wont just leave either , takes quite a bit of power to remove it once its attached .
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[QUOTE=bayan]If its a shadow person , its a #$%%ing nsty , If you do drugs , and that includes dope stop , cause it'll break down your protective aura. I dont like the idea of this thing watching you . Sounds like its just waiting for a opportunity to strike and if it attaches it self unto you , it'll never stop draining you , causing depression . And it wont just leave either , takes quite a bit of power to remove it once its attached .[/QUOTE]
Question: For awhile now, I for the most part feel shy or bored. i wouldnt call myself depressed but I can say maybe boarder line. How do you know something is attached to you
Sometimes when I go into "sleep paralysis" I usually notice a figure every now and then standing by my bed, or coming up to my bed then i wake myself up cuz the figure unease's me (might be because of its vibration or because im new to this) I also noticed, last time this happened the figure looked more "wiggly" and was over-all a white entity
[QUOTE=bayan]If its a shadow person , its a #$%%ing nsty , If you do drugs , and that includes dope stop , cause it'll break down your protective aura. I dont like the idea of this thing watching you . Sounds like its just waiting for a opportunity to strike and if it attaches it self unto you , it'll never stop draining you , causing depression . And it wont just leave either , takes quite a bit of power to remove it once its attached .[/QUOTE]
Question: For awhile now, I for the most part feel shy or bored. i wouldnt call myself depressed but I can say maybe boarder line. How do you know something is attached to you

Sometimes when I go into "sleep paralysis" I usually notice a figure every now and then standing by my bed, or coming up to my bed then i wake myself up cuz the figure unease's me (might be because of its vibration or because im new to this) I also noticed, last time this happened the figure looked more "wiggly" and was over-all a white entity
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"How do you know something is attached to you?"
The moment it attaches to you , is like a flash of a black shape with red eyes imagery going off in your head . Its highly noticable , with feelings of insecurity , paranoia and so forth , basically you'll notice a drastic change in your personality.
The thing by your bed , I can only guess , so i wont...
"How do you know something is attached to you?"
The moment it attaches to you , is like a flash of a black shape with red eyes imagery going off in your head . Its highly noticable , with feelings of insecurity , paranoia and so forth , basically you'll notice a drastic change in your personality.
The thing by your bed , I can only guess , so i wont...
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Original post: Quantum
[QUOTE=MadHatR137]If it is a "Watcher"-type, "if" being the key word, I would say, probably not...as far as I have ever read, they tend to not interfere with or assist people too often, hence the "Watcher" title....but I could be wrong....hell, they're probably not even called "Watchers" but thats merely the best way to express my readings....
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
...and a "Watcher" wouldn't really be classified as a "demon."[/QUOTE]
No,no. I do not wish to harm the Watchers. I wish to obtain their assistance in finding out if the being I have been conversing with is evil, and if so, their assistance in destroying it, or at least keeping it away from me.
[QUOTE=MadHatR137]If it is a "Watcher"-type, "if" being the key word, I would say, probably not...as far as I have ever read, they tend to not interfere with or assist people too often, hence the "Watcher" title....but I could be wrong....hell, they're probably not even called "Watchers" but thats merely the best way to express my readings....
...and why would you want to destroy something that hasn't attacked or offended you in any way.....
...and a "Watcher" wouldn't really be classified as a "demon."[/QUOTE]
No,no. I do not wish to harm the Watchers. I wish to obtain their assistance in finding out if the being I have been conversing with is evil, and if so, their assistance in destroying it, or at least keeping it away from me.
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Original post: MadHatR137
[QUOTE=Quantum]No,no. I do not wish to harm the Watchers. I wish to obtain their assistance in finding out if the being I have been conversing with is evil, and if so, their assistance in destroying it, or at least keeping it away from me.[/QUOTE]
Oh....but still...my gut tells me that the Watchers will be no help in that direction...otherwise, they wouldn't simply be "Watchers" would they? They'd be "Guides" or "Communicators" or something other than "Watchers." But in any case, if you communicate to them, and they do not respond....then that is that, ya know? You can't really "force" anything into assisting you, you know...
Who are the things you are trying to communicate with and define their alignment(s)? ...maybe if you give a specific name or description of them someone here can help you out if they have any knowledge on the individual....
[QUOTE=Quantum]No,no. I do not wish to harm the Watchers. I wish to obtain their assistance in finding out if the being I have been conversing with is evil, and if so, their assistance in destroying it, or at least keeping it away from me.[/QUOTE]
Oh....but still...my gut tells me that the Watchers will be no help in that direction...otherwise, they wouldn't simply be "Watchers" would they? They'd be "Guides" or "Communicators" or something other than "Watchers." But in any case, if you communicate to them, and they do not respond....then that is that, ya know? You can't really "force" anything into assisting you, you know...
Who are the things you are trying to communicate with and define their alignment(s)? ...maybe if you give a specific name or description of them someone here can help you out if they have any knowledge on the individual....
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Very well. I would go so far as to label the entity as a "He". He has varying sizes. Shadowy, like a black smoke that is spinning in human form. He has never revealed a name, but seems friendly enough. Piercing icy blue eyes. And as, before, I feel cold when conversing with him. That's the best I can do.
Very well. I would go so far as to label the entity as a "He". He has varying sizes. Shadowy, like a black smoke that is spinning in human form. He has never revealed a name, but seems friendly enough. Piercing icy blue eyes. And as, before, I feel cold when conversing with him. That's the best I can do.
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Hmm....well...there's nothing popping to mind for me....but you know what they say...."eyes are the gateway to the soul." Of course, I suppose its not always accurate and merely a cliche....but...
Quantum wrote:Very well. I would go so far as to label the entity as a "He". He has varying sizes. Shadowy, like a black smoke that is spinning in human form. He has never revealed a name, but seems friendly enough. Piercing icy blue eyes. And as, before, I feel cold when conversing with him. That's the best I can do.
Hmm....well...there's nothing popping to mind for me....but you know what they say...."eyes are the gateway to the soul." Of course, I suppose its not always accurate and merely a cliche....but...
...just keep your guard up and you'll eventually find the answers you seek...constantly question what you feel and are told, what makes sense will remain, what doesn't fit will be cast aside....trust your intuition in these situations....BlueSymbolism:
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Original post: Will B. Dunn
Quantum: Sounds like a typical Dweller on the Threshold to me. While I've never encountered it in my own astral meanderings, I know anecdotally and from separate personal experiences that it's harmless and not to be feared.
Quantum: Sounds like a typical Dweller on the Threshold to me. While I've never encountered it in my own astral meanderings, I know anecdotally and from separate personal experiences that it's harmless and not to be feared.
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Thank you. After more experiences with this being, I will attempt to analyze my intuition and report my findings back to you. Perhaps we can even classify this for future questions such as mine. Thank you again.
Thank you. After more experiences with this being, I will attempt to analyze my intuition and report my findings back to you. Perhaps we can even classify this for future questions such as mine. Thank you again.